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135mm f/1.8 DG OS ART Next from Sigma?

 
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Feb 22, 2017 02:37 |  #61

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so...it's official.

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I don't see why anyone would buy it over the nearly perfect IQ of the 135L. The 135L is probably top 3 Canon sharpest lenses and mine is nearly as sharp at F/2 as it is at F/5.6. I can only assume the 135 ART will be priced $1200+ and without OS. 1/3 of a stop more light won't justify the cost of this lens over the 135L.


With all that said, I picked up my 135L from local Craigslist in perfect condition for $650.

Because it will be sharper and has F/1.8. Why would you buy the Canon? It's 20+ years old!

Canon don't seem to innovate much any more. Thirty years ago they innovated with EF mount, and a slew of faster than ever AF lenses (50/1.0, 85/1.2, 200/1.8), then they did TS, and they owned the pro low-noise digi market with the EOS-1D Mark II.

Fast forward 30 years and a 3rd-party manufacturer is teaching them a thing or two about innovation.


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Feb 22, 2017 05:05 as a reply to  @ cwphoto's post |  #62

Oh boy...



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Feb 22, 2017 06:41 |  #63

MatthewK wrote in post #18281315 (external link)
Oh boy...

I know... it blows my mind how often that crap is repeated.


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Feb 22, 2017 08:50 |  #64

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I know... it blows my mind how often that crap is repeated.

The crap about them not coming out with innovating lenses? What was their last innovative lens? I can think of 1 in he last couple years...


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Feb 22, 2017 09:07 |  #65

and the fact they have done little with the sensors in years..The Sony sensors in the Nikon and sony cameras blow away canon sensors in noise and DR


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Feb 22, 2017 10:40 |  #66

Because neither of those reasons are preventing photographers from making outstanding images.



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Feb 22, 2017 10:50 |  #67

what does that have to do with innovation. They use to make great images many years ago with film. Would you not want digital to be created cause they already made great images from film.
Its pretty silly to be so ho hum that other brands are pushing things forward and canon has just been doing minor advancements and everything. Canon needs to wake up as its getting passed by pretty quick


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Feb 22, 2017 10:51 |  #68

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Because neither of those reasons are preventing photographers from making outstanding images.

True...but what would you rather have, a company that just releases updates to the same tried and true lenses, or one that's bringing out lenses that people 5-10 years ago would say are impossible?

Canon isn't doing much lens wise...although the rumored 851.4 IS would be good...we'll see if it ever comes out, or if someone beats them to a stabilized f1.4 lens


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Feb 22, 2017 11:12 |  #69

Canon's perceived lack of innovation is impacting your photography? In what way?

Lenses that cannot focus properly, or cameras that constantly freeze up or oil spot their sensors, those are the kinds of things that actually impact one's ability to create a photograph. Coming in 2nd place in a sharpness test does not. Please provide one good area where award winning, brilliant photographs cannot be achieved with Canon's EOS system, but can be with a system from a "more innovative" brand.

My point isn't to detract from Sigma or any other companies products. Not in the slightest, I have no qualms about shooting with another brand. Shoot with what makes you happy, but don't blame the gear (or company) for shortcomings...



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Feb 22, 2017 12:03 |  #70

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Canon's perceived lack of innovation is impacting your photography? In what way?


Well for instance, if Canon came out with a crop 50-100/1.8 a lot of indoor sports photogs using crop could have reliable AF. AF on the third party systems is improving, but still not as good as the real thing.


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Feb 22, 2017 12:23 |  #71

also if they improved the sensors like Sony has with high ISO. canon users could get much better low light photography that is so much cleaner to work with. So yes that makes a big impact as well.


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Feb 22, 2017 12:49 |  #72

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The crap about them not coming out with innovating lenses? What was their last innovative lens? I can think of 1 in he last couple years...

I assume you're thinking of the 11-24 with that? The blue goo doesn't count? No love for the cheap-and-very-good STM line? And what makes putting out great lenses like the Series II zooms and 35/2 IS inferior to whatever you decide makes a lens "innovative" even if it's not as good? What "innovative" lens has Nikon come out with? Or Sigma? Sigma has put out tons of lenses that are very similar to others (24-105A, anyone?). What makes putting stabilization into a lens "innovative" while other lenses aren't?

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Feb 22, 2017 12:51 |  #73

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$1299.99


They will sit on the shelf at that price

Unfortunately for Sigma is that the only crowd this is going to appeal to is the Nikon camp. I dont care if it has OS or not.

Canons 135L is the best portrait lens on the market until you step to the 200L. Nothing else has the look except these 2 lens

A 135L used can be had for $700.00 all day long and twice on Sundays

Anyone thats used a 135L knows you have to be at 1/160 to avoid blur issues so WHY would any canon shooter pay $1200.00 for a Siggy with OS v/s cranking the iso from 100 to 200 or 400 to get a shutter speed to 1/200 ????......Its not like the sensors a crapola at 400 ISO

Sorry I only see this for the Nikon camp. Canon has a 135L that cant be touched


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Feb 22, 2017 13:32 |  #74

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They will sit on the shelf at that price

Unfortunately for Sigma is that the only crowd this is going to appeal to is the Nikon camp. I dont care if it has OS or not.

Canons 135L is the best portrait lens on the market until you step to the 200L. Nothing else has the look except these 2 lens

A 135L used can be had for $700.00 all day long and twice on Sundays

Anyone thats used a 135L knows you have to be at 1/160 to avoid blur issues so WHY would any canon shooter pay $1200.00 for a Siggy with OS v/s cranking the iso from 100 to 200 or 400 to get a shutter speed to 1/200 ????......Its not like the sensors a crapola at 400 ISO

Sorry I only see this for the Nikon camp. Canon has a 135L that cant be touched

I made that post like 3 years ago.

The 135 art will be 950-999 otherwise people will choose the perfectly fine canon. They may try to do 1199 like the 85a is but I think that'll hurt them.

I've bought the 135 for 650 used. The art will need to be priced the exact same new vs new and perform much better to win sales.


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Feb 22, 2017 13:34 |  #75

FEChariot wrote in post #18281648 (external link)
Well for instance, if Canon came out with a crop 50-100/1.8 a lot of indoor sports photogs using crop could have reliable AF. AF on the third party systems is improving, but still not as good as the real thing.


It would be nice if every manufacturer made a lens for every explicit set of circumstances. In this particular example, Canon definitely has a few lens/body combo in their available equipment that can do that job, so that wouldn't fit the criterion of "not innovating".

Canon isn't perfect, but neither is anyone else. So pick a system that works for you.

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also if they improved the sensors like Sony has with high ISO. canon users could get much better low light photography that is so much cleaner to work with. So yes that makes a big impact as well.

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