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Feb 22, 2017 16:33 as a reply to  @ post 18280075 |  #31

TOM -- We've stayed at a lot of Super 8's but never found one at $200/night! In the past, we've done like you and just walked up to the desk and tried to get our best deal, especially in the off-season when they weren't busy. I don't know if September is considered off/peak season or what. We would prefer to have our rooms nailed down before we start our trip. Thanks for the tip about Hillcrest cottages. That sounds like a real possibility. Like you, we don't really see a need to drop $200+ just for a place to sleep and shower. Since I'm traveling with my wife, of course, I want a clean/safe place.

We figured about 7 days for Yellowstone and 2-3 days for Grand Tetons. If we broke that up and stayed at a couple of different places (Gardiner, Cooke City, West Yellowstone, maybe Jackson for Tetons), how would you suggest we break that up? We're very flexible but just are unsure how long it actually takes (how many days to see Tetons, how many days in Gardiner etc).

Thanks for all your help.

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Feb 22, 2017 16:59 |  #32

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We figured about 7 days for Yellowstone and 2-3 days for Grand Tetons. If we broke that up and stayed at a couple of different places (Gardiner, Cooke City, West Yellowstone, maybe Jackson for Tetons), how would you suggest we break that up? We're very flexible but just are unsure how long it actually takes (how many days to see Tetons, how many days in Gardiner etc).

Personally, I wouldn't want to break it up very much. Why? Because checking out and checking in, if you do it a lot, can really suck up a lot of your time.

For instance, if you are checking out of Cooke City on a Wednesday morning and checking in at Gardiner that afternoon, it can be difficult because you will need to pack everything up and take it with you when you leave very early in the morning. This can be tough because of the earliness of the hour - getting up and away from the room in time is already hard enough, without also having to pack everything up and check out. Some of us (myself!) don't think straight in the early morning hours, and would inadvertently leave something in the room, or forget to fill up the coffee thermos......I try to keep my early mornings as free and clear as possible.

And you wouldn't want to leave early and then have to come back to the room to pack up and check out, because of all the time it would take to drive all the way back to Cooke City from wherever you happen to be by time mid-morning comes around. Also, you might be on a really good opportunity that you want to stick to for hours, and it would suck to have to pull yourself away from a worthwhile wildlife sighting just to get to a motel to check out in time or to check in in time.

Also, some places discourage late check-ins, and you really wouldn't want to eat up your precious daylight hours by driving into town and checking in to a motel, when you could be out there exploring the park!

But that is only my opinion - there is no "right" or "wrong" way to do it. In fact, if you think it would be important to experience each one of the gateway towns by staying in each one for a night or three, then doing that might be well worth the inconvenience of repeatedly checking out and checking in. I can see merit in doing it each way.

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Feb 22, 2017 18:25 as a reply to  @ post 18281211 |  #33

One bit of advice if hiking in, bear spray... bear spray... bear spray.... Don't hike in without it. In more populated areas, like the geyser trails you are fine 99% of the time. If heading off to capture photos like Tom described above, take bear spray with you. They now rent canisters in the park. Can't emphasize that enough when back in away from everyone.

Small animals... marmots are fun. Their like ground hogs we have on the east coast. Heck, ground hogs may be in the west too, idk.
Pika is a fun little guy to capture too. The like big rocky areas where they run around and nest back in between the rocks. Popular place for them is between Mammoth and Roosevelt Junction at the Hellroaring Trailhead. Dirt road off the main road. You'll see the rock mountain easily. Walk up towards the edge and stand there ready with your camera. They sound like a little dog squeaky toy. Just have to watch for movement. They are small and move fast but you can get photos. Look towards the bottom of the rocks along the grass edge. They can be higher up though as well. Pika do not like warm weather. Warming temps are a threat to their existence.
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Ermine is another small bugger to try and get photos. I only have a couple crappy photos of them, one posted below. They are in the weasel family. Do a google search on them in relation to the Catholic Pope to see their significance to him. In the winter, they are all white.

This ermine photo was taken along the East Entrance near the lake.
In 2014 I had one run across the road in front of me carrying a mouse or vole. It dropped it on the road as my vehicle was really close to him. In my rearview mirror, I saw it come back out and retrieve it's bounty from where it dropped it on the road

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Peregrines hang out along the river cliffs at Tower Falls.
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Foxes are around. Maybe catch one with a ground squirrel.
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So many possibilities to be had.



  
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Feb 22, 2017 18:30 as a reply to  @ TAPlank's post |  #34

Check out Vacation Rental By Owners, VRBO.com.
Most have a minimum stay of 3 nights.
Past few years I have just stayed in Gardiner and traveled from there. I leave before daybreak and don't get back until after dark most days.
If I got down to the Tetons I do an overnight from my home base in Gardiner.




  
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Feb 22, 2017 19:13 |  #35

Don't plan your trips during the week of the solar eclipse this year. All the rooms in the area are already taken and not only have they doubled the room rates but they require a 3 day stay. This would apply mainly to West Yellowstone and Jackson, eastern Idaho and Southwest Wyoming.

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Feb 23, 2017 15:42 as a reply to  @ post 18280327 |  #36

OROGENY -- Thanks for your comments about Hillcrest Cottages. Is Hayden Valley too far to access while we are in Gardiner? Do you remember how long a drive it was? Thanks for the suggestion about Dunraven Pass and Gardiner Canyon. I had heard Dunraven Pass was good for bears but I don't think I had heard of Gardiner Canyon before. I appreciate your responding and trying to help us.

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Feb 23, 2017 15:54 as a reply to  @ post 18281022 |  #37

TAPLANK -- Thanks for the info. With as many trips as you've made, we value your opinion. Thanks for all your tips on lodging in the area, along with what to see and where to look for it. As we mentioned in an earlier post to Tom, we are flexible on time about when to go and how long to stay. We were thinking of a day or two around Cooke City and exploring that northeast corner of the park and surrounding areas. Then moving to Gardiner and exploring that corner of the park. Would you suggest doing something like this and then moving either to the center of the park or southern border near the Tetons? Again, we are flexible on time spent in the park and how we break it up. Also, would you suggest going later in September? We chose September thinking that some of the crowds might have cleared out. We could possibly do May/June but worried that lodging would be a bigger problem on short notice. Thoughts?

Looking forward to your response. Thank you.

John




  
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Feb 23, 2017 20:06 |  #38

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Feb 24, 2017 08:13 |  #39

TAPlank wrote in post #18282093 (external link)
Foxes are around. Maybe catch one with a ground squirrel.
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So many possibilities to be had.


That's the Yellowstone Picnic Area den from Spring of 2013, right?


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Feb 24, 2017 10:47 |  #40

RikWriter wrote in post #18283651 (external link)
That's the Yellowstone Picnic Area den from Spring of 2013, right?

Couple days for the badger incident. Had left the park when that went down.




  
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Feb 24, 2017 11:01 as a reply to  @ johnohio's post |  #41

My first couple of trips we, wife & I, went something like this. Couple nights in Canyon Village, couple nights at Roosevelt Junction, night in Cody, night at Grant Village. It was a pain moving around all the time. I was not into the photography end of things like I am those first 2 trips.

For the most part after that, it has been either staying the whole time in Cooke/Silver Gate or in Gardiner. Wildlife has been my main focus so proximity to Lamar and the northern area of the park is desired. Like I said before, Cooke City is tough to stay at because there are so few places to eat. There is one place, can't think of name, I will not go to. Use to own a sandwich shop and after watching the owner lick mayo off his fingers, then reach into an aujus to pull roast beef out for a customer's sandwich, nope never again. If staying in Cooke, get a place where you can cook is my recommendation.

Gardiner has alot more and that is where I stay now. Can do day trips from there to any part of the park. Ystone roads are a big circle 8, easy to get around it just takes time. Alot to see along the way. For me, it's nothing to leave Gardiner in the morning - drive out to Lamar - and back to Mamouth area before lunch. It all depends on what is happening for wildlife sightings. If something good is happening at a location, you're there all day.

I would move overnight locations if going down to Tetons. That's a half day drive from Gardiner. I plan on being in the Tetons late September this year. Moose rut, owls, foilage, whatever else.

There is lodging in Gardiner that I know of through VRBO. I just reserved the place I am staying at last week. Looking at $125/night for no kitchen.




  
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Feb 24, 2017 15:09 |  #42

TAPlank wrote in post #18283800 (external link)
Couple days for the badger incident. Had left the park when that went down.


Yeah, so had I. I was there about the same time, I guess.


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Feb 24, 2017 15:34 |  #43

RikWriter wrote in post #18284061 (external link)
Yeah, so had I. I was there about the same time, I guess.

Yes, I watched you get in the long-ear owls face and the ranger get after you that week.




  
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Feb 24, 2017 17:55 |  #44

TAPlank wrote in post #18284084 (external link)
Yes, I watched you get in the long-ear owls face and the ranger get after you that week.


No, I don't think you did, since I didn't get into it with a ranger. I did get into it with some guy who tried to set his tripod up in front of me.


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Feb 26, 2017 09:08 |  #45

johnohio wrote in post #18282957 (external link)
OROGENY -- Thanks for your comments about Hillcrest Cottages. Is Hayden Valley too far to access while we are in Gardiner? Do you remember how long a drive it was?

Understand that everything is far in Yellowstone. If memory serves me, if you drive non-stop over Dunraven, it takes about an hour an a half from Gardiner.

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