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135mm f/1.8 DG OS ART Next from Sigma?

 
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Feb 26, 2017 12:19 |  #151

I have had a slew of Sigma glass, HSM focusing etc. Still to this day, initial "pick up the camera and aim and fire" goes to Canon glass. I keep hoping and trying, but at this point for sports shooting, I have to go with Canon. I liked where Sigma was going with the 50-150, but I need Canon to make that with their knowledge of their own AF system. I would use a range close to that quite a bit. 50-150 f2.8 (or faster, but the lens would be a beast I feel) could be a great sporting lens for me. For UWA, I like the Tokina, minus the flare once in a while, and the image that is rough around the edges (pun intended), plus it works as a 16mm f2.8 prime on the 5D. I cannot rationalize the 11-24L for what I shoot, I would LOVE that lens.


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Feb 26, 2017 12:54 |  #152

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Y'all play nice....

Why can't everyone be like me and want every lens?


Because none of us have won the lottery :p


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Feb 27, 2017 01:01 |  #153

Has anyone found some sample images yet? -not of the lens itself :)




  
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Feb 27, 2017 01:29 |  #154

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You claimed Canon isnt being innovative. What could they do you would consider innovation, that doesn't exist at all in any form, even partially, in that UWA range? (Assuming less than 24mm)

I am genuinely curious, so provide some specs and the benefits of such, not jabs or smart alecky remarks. I am always for new kinds of glass, I have GAS and am proud of it. :D

I have had a lot of UWA lenses through the years and currently have the tokina, and like it.

If you're going to ask me a challenging question (the first jab BTW), then be prepared to get (metaphorically) slapped when you have a flawed argument.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're genuinely curious - so attached is an example of a photo that I can't quite get right with Canon gear; where to get success I need a bigger aperture so I can both 1) get the noise profile down, and/or 2) use a faster Tv to capture a non-smeared star. An Astro tracker wouldn't work in this example as I also have terrestrial objects as part of the frame that ideally I want movement-free.

So a fast UWA would help me get the shot I envision.

I believe that qualifies as a legitimate response to: "What can't you shoot today with Canon because of something they didn't create for you"

Basically if you believe that all the shots one would ever want to take are possible with existing kit, then live your life without innovation (you don't need it).

On the other hand, if you believe there are yet more extreme frontiers of image capture yet to be attempted - then perhaps innovative new kit may just help.

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Feb 27, 2017 02:43 |  #155

You could leave the shutter open for another 15seconds and still avoid star trails...


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Feb 27, 2017 02:45 |  #156

DreDaze wrote in post #18286376 (external link)
You could leave the shutter open for another 15seconds and still avoid star trails...

I want it more defined - that shot is 30s and still has a bit of trail......


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Feb 27, 2017 02:53 |  #157

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I want it more defined - that shot is 30s and still has a bit of trail......

Well the rule is 500/focal length to avoid star trails...so that would put you at 45seconds, so not sure why there would be movement in the stars at 30seconds


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Feb 27, 2017 05:53 |  #158

Interesting shot!

This article seems to describe lenses that do very well for nightscapes, will none of these work to get results like these?

http://www.lonelyspeck​.com …ky-way-photography-canon/ (external link)

I would think a 14mm 2.8 lens would great for that? Are there any fast fisheyes?

Here is an older article, I don't think the 11-24L was out yet.

http://www.nightphotog​raphyworkshop.com …ses-for-night-photography (external link)

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the other manufacturers have anything either.


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Feb 27, 2017 07:15 |  #159

DreDaze wrote in post #18286387 (external link)
Well the rule is 500/focal length to avoid star trails...so that would put you at 45seconds, so not sure why there would be movement in the stars at 30seconds

Because the rule is subjective and influenced by personal tolerances. It's a guide.


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Mar 13, 2017 16:16 |  #160

cwphoto wrote in post #18286485 (external link)
Because the rule is subjective and influenced by personal tolerances. It's a guide.

This is true. Also, depending where you are on Earth and where you're pointing your camera, the rule also does not apply. Also, when you crop in at 100% you will see trailing when shooting at the max 500 rule. I see trailing with my 6D and 14mm even when I shoot at 30 seconds and I zoom in 100% crop, (500 rule says 35.7 secs). With that said, I have found the 500 rule works just fine for IG and most image sharing sites where you're viewing the entire photo at 15-50% full crop.

If I was doing a large print, I'd probably do multiple exposure stacks at 250/focallength for no trails and less noise.


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Mar 15, 2017 13:58 |  #161

I think coma is the problem he is seeing on that picture, given that the center looks good. If so, this is lens related.




  
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Mar 15, 2017 22:40 |  #162

Really happy about this announcement. Because this and the rumored Canon replacement will mean a dearth of used 135L's on the market :lol:

I'm sure it will be a stunning lens (if you get a good copy AF-wise) but, if the price of the 85 1.4 Art is anything to go by, it'll be out of my self-imposed price range.

Which will be a shame as I really like the physical look of the lens. It's nice and heavy as well, which is a good thing in my book. In fact, I love that Sigma doesn't make any attempt to make their new lenses lightweight.


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Mar 15, 2017 23:14 |  #163

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Really happy about this announcement. Because this and the rumored Canon replacement will mean a dearth of used 135L's on the market :lol:

I don't understand your line of reasoning here..............I would expect the exact opposite.

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Mar 15, 2017 23:28 |  #164

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18302189 (external link)
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I don't understand your line of reasoning here..............I would expect the exact opposite.

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What would you expect the opposite of ?

I'd expect quite a few people dropping their old and somehow instantly soft 135L's in favour of this new lens. Therefore there'll be lots of used lenses flooding the market. One of which I will be pleased to buy at a satisfactorily lower price.

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Mar 16, 2017 00:07 |  #165

Dearth? Did you mean a glut?


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