Possible portrait camera change

I shoot a 5D mk III. Upgraded a while back from the 6D. Loved my 6D way more tbh but that's water under the bridge. My concern with the 5D is the autofocusing. I suppose I can try to fully setup the focus points just for the eyes but changing framing and stuff makes it a huge pain in the ass.
The facial recognition is ok but it gets the nose/cheeks/mouth and not so much the eyes. I could set it up for back focusing but again annoying and seems stupid to do

I watched a video and saw a guy with some Sony mirrorless (assuming the a7 of sorts) that had automatic eye focusing

I was thinking about selling my 5D and getting a high end a7

I have a bunch of canon/sigma art series lenses.
Afraid of losing quality or something when swapping and using a converter mount


Thoughts?
I love the idea of mirrorless for portraits although I do shoot skateboarding and kinda wanna keep my mkIII just for that.

Sure, I would certainly take a look at your trade off's for the different lenses available vs what you currently use.

Your site is nice, it doesn't look like you have focus issues.

Have you looked thru the 5DIV yet? the spread on the points is more improved than I thought it was. certainly the sensor is much improved over the 5D3 and 6D.

Why not rent an a7rII +lens from lens rentals and see how you get along with one? Most who switch also switch to native lenses, particularly if doing pro work.

There are a lot of a7 series shooters using adapted EF mount glass and getting killer results. Come to the Sony thread to discuss it with shooters who have been through all of the popular adapters if you want to pick some brains. The Sigma MC-11 adapter is said to work very well with Sony Art and Canon glass.

https://photography-on-the.net …d.php?t=1430203​&page=2083

My thoughts - mirrorless for skateboarding, DSLR for portraits.

I never seen it as the issue with 50L at f1.2 and 5D. I was taking two-tree shots instead of one. Have to take it anyway. Now I don't see it as the issue for portraits with DOF enough to cover not just one eye. In fact, now I prefer portraits with everything on face in the focus. I was reading Jane Bown book with short hints about portraits. Her f2.8 seems to be enough for DOF and blur.

https://www.google.ca …&biw=1680&bih=9​89#imgrc=_

Appreciate the feedback. And yeah I didn't mean I've never been able to focus. I definitely can shoot some portraits but I've just noticed with this camera lately a lot of the focusing I do, even at F2 .8, candy off. Mainly with the facial recognition kind. A lot of stuff I do is kind of hard to set up a tripod and be very particular with that so I'll just have to figure out another method. The 85 art series I just got may be in need of micro adjustment for focusing as well so maybe I will just experiment with stuff. I have considered other cameras but I did just get this Mark III a couple months back which was a minor upgrade for me but definitely thinking about upgrading again since portraits is my main focus and source of income so. Maybe I'll see if I can sell this body with my 24 art series and put it towards A better portrait camera overall. I've always liked mirror lists but I never wanted to sell all of my equipment to make the swap. I guess my two new lenses are within the return. So I guess it would be something to consider going fully Sony

I just love my canon stuff and DSLR In general
Lol

The high end bodies (ie. 5D's) all have rather complicated focusing systems. I'd suggest getting a book on the usage of the camera, or scour the menu and learn all the focus modes, and how/why to use them for certain situations. I've never heard of anyone having problems with the MKIII's focusing system, nor have I had any issues with it myself...that is after I bothered to learn how to use it properly. If after that you're still having issues maybe consider AF-fine tune (or whatever Canon calls it) and microadjusting all your lenses to ensure they're in focus, and if that fails take it in to Canon and see if it needs fixing.

Eye focus is probably the best thing to happen to portrait photography in a long time. That feature, and the fact that mirrorless bodies do not have the microfocus issues that DSLR's do is the main reason I'll probably never own another DSLR. MFA was a nightmare back in my Canon days and I'd rather not do all of that again.

Critical focus on the eyes is very much key to portrait photography....much more-so now given how unforgiving high resolution sensors are with regards to focus errors. The critical focus accuracy of the a7rII is spot on every time outside of user error.

Eye focus also greatly simplifies the focusing process when taking portraits. No messing with modes or selecting AF points means you can keep a better flow throughout the shoot, and less time fumbling with AF points means less chance of missing key expressions. Eye focus is mapped to a separate button of your choosing, and some Sony lenses even have a button on the lens itself that I assign to eye focus. Simply hold that button down and it will, find and actively track your subject's eyes.

Edit: since you have a lot of Sigma Art lenses, it's worth noting that Sigma has a special adapter that allows Sigma lenses to focus like a native Sony lens. So you can use eye focus with Canon mount Sigma lenses on the a7rII

Eye focus in action:

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lol been shooting and studying nonstop for over 3 years. My photography, I feel, Reflects greatly on that.
I don't need books on "complicated" autofocusing systems. I understand how it all works and have shot hundreds of sessions with the Mk III.

The system was not doing what I wanted and I hate having to adjust according to its needs and microadjustments and all that crap.

The AF system that Sony offers has been a hundred times better in the past three days than any of my Canon stuff.

Appreciate the feed back tho.
Thanks.

thanks for the feed back.
I actually went ahead and bought the A7Rii and its beautiful

The AF system is just amazing.

I am gonna get the adapter and keep my art series lenses for now even tho some say that the art series isn't as sharp as the sony native stuff?
Seems odd to me but I am just trying to consider my options right now.

Nick Aufiero wrote in post #18305917
thanks for the feed back.
I actually went ahead and bought the A7Rii and its beautiful

The AF system is just amazing.

I am gonna get the adapter and keep my art series lenses for now even tho some say that the art series isn't as sharp as the sony native stuff?
Seems odd to me but I am just trying to consider my options right now.

Congrats!

In terms of sharpness....It's a case by case thing. If we're taking test charts, the Sony 55 is basically the sharpest 50mm lens outside of the otus, but the Sigma 35 is sharper than the Sony 35 1.4. real world shooting you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in terms of sharpness.

The so y lenses get the nod for rendering IMO though. The Zeiss and GM lenses are very different from one another in terms of character, but they are the real deal.

Well maybe I'll try and get my hands on them

I really love my art series but I'd love to go native and just get another mirrorless down the road for a second camera

Especially for the ease of use for my wife

I know I have another lens thread up if you wanna join that conversation!!

Nick Aufiero wrote in post #18306005
Well maybe I'll try and get my hands on them

I really love my art series but I'd love to go native and just get another mirrorless down the road for a second camera

Especially for the ease of use for my wife

I know I have another lens thread up if you wanna join that conversation!!

Lol the good thing about being able to adapt lenses is that it smoothes our or eliminates the need to transition lenses....Particularly if you own sigma lenses

Ya I know. I am so torn between keeping them or just sellin all my canon gear together.

Nick Aufiero wrote in post #18306289
Ya I know. I am so torn between keeping them or just sellin all my canon gear together.

Hehe I wouldn't get too worked up about making that decision now. Most people end up transitioning to native glass, mostly because the native glass is so good. But the urgency isn't there because of the ability to adapt existing glass. It took me 2 years to fully transition over.

Yeah I know.
I think I'll just do it now tbh

I sell my lens then put that $250 for the adapter towards a good 50mm