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Sony A7ii as a backup camera or Canon 6D?

 
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Jan 30, 2017 13:30 |  #31

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Upon further investigation, I see that the TECHART in Charlie's photo is:

"TECHART PRO adapter is the world’s first autofocus adapter for your manual focus camera lenses. It is able to turn your manual lens into an autofocus lens and use it under the Sony A7 cameras. Not only does it immediately give lives to all the manual lenses, it also changes the experience we had with these lenses. You can now use your favourite Leica lenses for taking snap shots, motion pictures or candid photos."

IOW, if OP buys a Metabones, manual lenses do not 'autofocus' but merely have 'focus confirmation', and the camera requires a TECHART to have true 'AF' functionality with any Metabones non-compatible lenses. And, depending upon manual lens' mount, it also may require an additional mount adapter.
Learned something new!

This is the problem with a lot of your posts though, you come in fists swinging and telling people why they're "wrong" without having the knowledge to backup your claims. Instead of going on the attack right away, perhaps next time it'd be better to look into the claims of the other person or even simply ask them to clarify what they mean instead of automatically just assuming they're wrong.

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Excuse me but you CANNOT 'autofocus' any manual focus lenses (your old OM lenses), as there is zero mechanism to do so!
What you CAN do is to use 'focus confirmation' to indicate the point of best focus with a manually adjusted lens. But manual adjustment is not nearly as quick as any AF mechanism found with current AF lenses in AF cameras.

It has been reported that the Metabones fails to focus certain AF lenses from non-Sony sources, and that newer software for the Metabones theoretically resolves the issue, yet testing published by Petapixel as recently as June 2016 shows that the problem still exists nonetheless!

https://petapixel.com …-update-sony-ef-adapters/ (external link)

A quote within the Petapixel is attributed to DPR...

" the Sigma adapter’s AF performance was found to be lack-luster, so people were hopeful Metabones could do better. Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem to be the case. ...The verdict is pretty harsh. ...The adapter limits phase-detect functionality to a small region in the center and resulted in “significant hunting” in pretty much all modes tested."


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Jan 30, 2017 14:04 |  #32

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realism: the tendency to view or represent things as they really are.

overstate:  to state in too strong terms :  exaggerate


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Jan 30, 2017 14:19 |  #33

mickeyb105 wrote in post #18259791 (external link)
overstate:  to state in too strong terms :  exaggerate

One person's 'big problem' is not a problem to another person...that does not say that one should not talk about it. It might very much matter to one buyer, but not another!


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Jan 30, 2017 15:15 |  #34

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One person's 'big problem' is not a problem to another person...that does not say that one should not talk about it. It might very much matter to one buyer, but not another!

I will be the first to admit that the Sony line of mirrorless cameras isn't for everyone. It took two different A7 series bodies to figure out that Fuji was where he wanted to be. I'm not sure if he regrets it, but he sure did pump out some nice pictures on the Sony thread while coming to his conclusion.

That said, there are some very real size and IQ benefits for Sony shooters. Do I tell sports and wildlife shooters to shoot e-mount? Of course not, but some guys do anyway and come away with pleasing results.


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Jan 30, 2017 15:29 |  #35

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That said, there are some very real size and IQ benefits for Sony shooters.

yes, and I have stated their ARE distinct advantages of Sony vs. Canon.
and there are distinct advantages of Nikon vs. Canon
and there are distinct advantages of film TTL vs. eTTL
and there are distinct advantages to having same brand spare (and especially an IDENTICAL 'spare')


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Jan 30, 2017 22:29 |  #36

mickeyb105 wrote in post #18259860 (external link)
I will be the first to admit that the Sony line of mirrorless cameras isn't for everyone. It took two different A7 series bodies to figure out that Fuji was where he wanted to be. I'm not sure if he regrets it, but he sure did pump out some nice pictures on the Sony thread while coming to his conclusion.

That said, there are some very real size and IQ benefits for Sony shooters. Do I tell sports and wildlife shooters to shoot e-mount? Of course not, but some guys do anyway and come away with pleasing results.

Not sure if you were referring to me, but as I did shoot with two a7 bodies before switching to Fuji I'll assume you are :lol:

I definitely don't regret it so far. I have immense respect for the Sony system, it just wasn't for me, but I totally get how it is for others. Just as I totally get how DSLRs are preferable for some shooters... what I don't get is blind ignorance or flat out misinformation on the behalf of any camera system.


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Jan 31, 2017 09:16 as a reply to  @ EverydayGetaway's post |  #37

Yes, Lucas, was talking about you but my phone was at odds with my typing yesterday--lol.


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Feb 03, 2017 09:06 |  #38

OP,

Did you strictly need a full frame?

If you purchase an EOS-M5 (very similar performance to an 80d) you'd have Canon's latest crop sensor technology. The dynamic range would destroy the 5dmk2. Image quality wise it's surprisingly rich like a full frame compared to the earlier generation Canon crop sensors.

The canon adapter would allow EF-S and EF lenses to operate virtually like native glass.

Benefits from the M5 is extremely fast and accurate AF, incredible dynamic range, A good jump in high iso performance to a 5dmk2, stabilization and dual pixel af for camcorder like AF in a mirrorless body for video application.

All of your canon gear will adapt seamlessly.

I've never been a fan of crop sensor.....silly snobbery I've had for a very long time. That was until I purchased fuji bodies and Canon 80D. My 80D has proven to provide excellent IQ effortlessly with the features and performance of it's sensor.

The 80D almost seems marginally larger than a rebel series. What I do find is that the small dslr is extremely ergonomic with a great hand grip even with larger unbalanced lenses (support my 70-200 with my hand).

If you buy a Sony that potentially can be a great way to experience new excitement to photography. My fuji and even 80D has changed my views not only in photography and composition but how you acquire the image.

An interesting observation is that there is less intimidation using a small body camera. You can very likely achieve better interaction/expression more easily with subjects. Less intimidation equates to candid happy photos people take with smartphones. Using a larger 5dmk2,3,4 is different compared to a Sony mirrorless using small native glass with less intimidation :)

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Feb 04, 2017 12:52 |  #39

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So if me and my husband shoot for an event and if he would use the Sony, I would have quite an interesting outcome with very heavy differences between the two. Maybe not such a great idea of using two different brands for the same photoshoot? However, I like the fact that Sony is smaller and can easily carry it around. And, I would not mind switching to Sony for both cameras but I'm worried about the image quality using a convertor lens mount.


I can kinda relate to this... even though I only shoot Sony cameras... I DO have both Canon EF and Sony lenses... I've done photoshoots before where I switched back and forth between a Canon 135mm F2 L and Batis 85mm F1.8 and when I got to editing, it was a bit of challenge to get the colours to match -?




  
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Feb 08, 2017 01:55 |  #40

I had the 6D and brought the A6000 to see if i like the system.

I then brought the A7ii and fell in love with it. I started with the Fotga adapter for my Canon glass and it works pretty well. Wouldn't have a bar of my nifty fifty. 2 weeks ago I brought the Sigma MC11 adapter and everything inlcuding the nifty works a treat.

I sold my 6D early last year and now just run the 2 Sony bodies and have no regrets at all. I have a couple of native lenses, not the nice Zeiss ones and still use my 3 Canon L lenses to great effect on the Sony body.

I think a lot of people are too caught up in bragging rights of what they read is the better system. Hire one and try it and see if you like it. For me, I like it and it works with the photography I do. Mainly landscape and astro, but now trying to get into portraits a little bit too. Happy with my results with all the styles of photography I try with the A7ii

You will not know until you try it and see how it feels in your hands.

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Mar 21, 2017 22:29 |  #41

Have you tried Photoshop's color match function? IOf so, what's your experience?

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I can kinda relate to this... even though I only shoot Sony cameras... I DO have both Canon EF and Sony lenses... I've done photoshoots before where I switched back and forth between a Canon 135mm F2 L and Batis 85mm F1.8 and when I got to editing, it was a bit of challenge to get the colours to match -?




  
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