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Mar 22, 2017 10:51 |  #31396

Chris Niccolls, from "The Camera Store" compares the Sony FE 85 f1.8 and the Zeiss Batis 85 f1.8 lenses.


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Mar 22, 2017 11:03 |  #31397

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Chris Niccolls, from "The Camera Store" compares the Sony FE 85 f1.8 and the Zeiss Batis 85 f1.8 lenses.

makes me want to preorder...... I already have the funds in my PP account sitting, getting hard to resist..... shooting with the rok 85 usually calms me down a bit, really amazing bokeh and optics plenty fine, will be sad to see it go.... or maybe it will stay....... first world problems.


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Mar 22, 2017 11:13 |  #31398

Get the new Rok 85mm 1.2...looks pretty amazing. :p

Seriously though, the new FE 85mm 1.8 is a Batis killer - I can't imagine Zeiss will be doing a lot of sales for their 85mm going forward. That said, as a Batis owner, I wouldn't sell mine just to get another lens just like it. Wouldn't be a particularly cost-effective move.


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Mar 22, 2017 11:27 |  #31399

David Arbogast wrote in post #18307948 (external link)
Get the new Rok 85mm 1.2...looks pretty amazing. :p

Seriously though, the new FE 85mm 1.8 is a Batis killer - I can't imagine Zeiss will be doing a lot of sales for their 85mm going forward. That said, as a Batis owner, I wouldn't sell mine just to get another lens just like it. Wouldn't be a particularly cost-effective move.

doesnt that thing weigh like 1kg? I'm being a little fussy with the weight of the rok 85 f1.4, and it's only 550-600g with adapter :-P

For my day to day family shooting, I often leave the rok 85 at home because it's too heavy!


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Mar 22, 2017 13:09 |  #31400

vmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmad

I finally decide to pull the trigger on the LEE CPL...I had some B&H rebates to use...the morons shipped it in a flimsy padded UPS envelope...you guessed it...shattered...


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Mar 22, 2017 13:15 |  #31401

TRhoads wrote in post #18308042 (external link)
vmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmad

I finally decide to pull the trigger on the LEE CPL...I had some B&H rebates to use...the morons shipped it in a flimsy padded UPS envelope...you guessed it...shattered...

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I got a voigtlander 10 from ad0rama, and the box had padding all on one side..... luckily it was ok.

on the flip side, I'm going to try some cheaper CPL's on amazon, I recall the LEE CPL being really thick and probably would have trouble on any other holder than the LEE one. I'll let you know how it works out, I was in the market for an ND 1.8 and CPL square, and found some cheapies on amazon, should arrive today for testing.

I'm not paying the LEE premium anymore, too many alternatives available!


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Mar 22, 2017 13:18 |  #31402

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I got a voigtlander 10 from ad0rama, and the box had padding all on one side..... luckily it was ok.

on the flip side, I'm going to try some cheaper CPL's on amazon, I recall the LEE CPL being really thick and probably would have trouble on any other holder than the LEE one. I'll let you know how it works out, I was in the market for an ND 1.8 and CPL square, and found some cheapies on amazon, should arrive today for testing.

I'm not paying the LEE premium anymore, too many alternatives available!

I have had bad experiences with cheap filters...so...I just bite the bullet and invest in them to put in front of my expensive lenses, attached to my 42mp pricey camera...why go to the trouble of buying all of that expensive stuff to throw a cheap potentially crap filter on...

this LEE CPL isn't any thicker than any of the ND filters I use, in fact, my FH Firecrest 16 is the thickest one that doesn't fit very good in the foundation kit.


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Mar 22, 2017 13:25 |  #31403

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Mar 22, 2017 13:26 as a reply to  @ David Arbogast's post |  #31404

I may just have to pick up one of the new FE 85 lenses on heels of seeing the strong predictions that the new Zeiss lens will be a 135 f2.8.

After hearing about the 135, I took my Minolta 200 HS APO out for a spin to see if I could continue living with the inconvenience of both MF with the LA-EA4 and the distance I need to shoot with it as a portrait lens.

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I can't quite talk myself into an 85 right now, already being happy with the FE55, but maybe the 135 1.8. Still undecided, but I do know that I'm terrible at MF.

And that my sensor needs to be cleaned.

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Mar 22, 2017 13:40 |  #31405

TRhoads wrote in post #18308042 (external link)
vmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmad

I finally decide to pull the trigger on the LEE CPL...I had some B&H rebates to use...the morons shipped it in a flimsy padded UPS envelope...you guessed it...shattered...

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That sucks Travis.


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Mar 22, 2017 13:43 |  #31406

TRhoads wrote in post #18308051 (external link)
I have had bad experiences with cheap filters...so...I just bite the bullet and invest in them to put in front of my expensive lenses, attached to my 42mp pricey camera...why go to the trouble of buying all of that expensive stuff to throw a cheap potentially crap filter on...

this LEE CPL isn't any thicker than any of the ND filters I use, in fact, my FH Firecrest 16 is the thickest one that doesn't fit very good in the foundation kit.

I still have some LEE's, but dont use it. Not the best filters IMO, and priced high.

the haida stuff I've been using has been better than LEE (10 stops). The LEE 10 stopper of my brother's eventually broke and wont be replaced with another LEE.

I had the very old LEE 4x4 CPL, it was super thick, such a pain mounting it everytime, so I sold it off. I'll compare el cheapo CPL with a real zeiss CPL. If they dont live up to their claims, then I'll return it, especially the "Neutral" density, not interested in a blue filter :-P


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Mar 22, 2017 13:45 |  #31407

TRhoads wrote in post #18308042 (external link)
vmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmadvmad

I finally decide to pull the trigger on the LEE CPL...I had some B&H rebates to use...the morons shipped it in a flimsy padded UPS envelope...you guessed it...shattered...

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Idiots :rolleyes:


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Mar 22, 2017 14:07 |  #31408

digital_AM wrote in post #18308065 (external link)
That sucks Travis.

yes it does...I fly out to Houston tomorrow...really wanted to have this filter...

Charlie wrote in post #18308067 (external link)
I still have some LEE's, but dont use it. Not the best filters IMO, and priced high.

the haida stuff I've been using has been better than LEE (10 stops). The LEE 10 stopper of my brother's eventually broke and wont be replaced with another LEE.

I had the very old LEE 4x4 CPL, it was super thick, such a pain mounting it everytime, so I sold it off. I'll compare el cheapo CPL with a real zeiss CPL. If they dont live up to their claims, then I'll return it, especially the "Neutral" density, not interested in a blue filter :-P

If I had it to do all over again, I would go the Firecrest line...they are more neutral...but they were not even around when I started buying ND filters etc...

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Idiots :rolleyes:

that is putting it very nicely...

B&H is going to replace it...just not in time for this trip.


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Mar 22, 2017 14:18 |  #31409

TRhoads wrote in post #18308094 (external link)
yes it does...I fly out to Houston tomorrow...really wanted to have this filter...

If I had it to do all over again, I would go the Firecrest line...they are more neutral...but they were not even around when I started buying ND filters etc...

that is putting it very nicely...

B&H is going to replace it...just not in time for this trip.

you can get the Haida CPL with same day shipping on amazon. Not sure if they offer in your area, but same day shipping is pretty sweet, and may make it for your trip!

I've got way too many filters, and I'll say that haida is slightly better than firecrest, but like you, I got the firecrest 16 when noone else was making them. I've been too lazy to sell my filters, but if my latest purchase works out, I'll be looking to sell a lot of filters, I gotta clear them out! 3, 6, 10, CPL, all I need, gotta get rid of all the grads, just not using them.


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Mar 22, 2017 14:39 |  #31410

Are we expecting a A7riii soon?


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