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Apr 01, 2017 09:56 |  #7741

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I have a question... posting it here because I really respect the photographers in this section. Please give me an honest answer.
I have taken probably over a thousand Bluebird pictures this year. On this morning, the light was perfect, so I thought I would try to add a little colour to where the birds were perching. I placed the green moss up on the stump and waited for an opportunity.
I was pretty happy with the result and posted it on Facebook (Canadian Bird Photography), to favorable reviews.
But one guy, with a claimed "over 50 years of bird photography", is all over me for "staging" the photo. Even gone so far as calling me an "unethical Photographer". This is a wild bird, not baited or harmed in any way. I just liked the colour and the light.
I'm fairly new to bird photography and photography in general.
Would very much appreciate honest opinions here so as to not cross any lines in the future, Thanks.

There is always going to be that person on the internet forums Dave, The know it all, The guy that needs to tell you how it is, we all have branches and sticks, and yes even bait !!... I put mine in this new fangled thing they call a Bird Feeder. If you think about it everything we shoot is baited.. we either sit at the food source or somewhere in between to find the birds and critters we all shoot. I for one grow intolerant of the purest. They are mostly people who never leave the couch and live a Facebook existence, which leads them to believe all the B.S that is conjured up in the minds of the same. You put moss on a log.. No one died or was injured lol Every bird I have posted were baited as goes for everyone here that shot a bird near a feeder or with any type of food or rodent in their mouths. You should not take it to heart. I have come to terms with it and so will you. Now about those sticks in the back ground lol ??


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Apr 01, 2017 10:00 |  #7742

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I think you're creating an image and it looks great. I wonder if that photographer does any post processing or baits any of his birds for photos?

That's another odd thing. For all his supposed photographic experience, I've never seen him post a picture, or in fact, post at all. He seems to have come out, just to go after this picture.


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Apr 01, 2017 10:07 |  #7743

rrdubya wrote in post #18316513 (external link)
I think you're creating an image and it looks great. I wonder if that photographer does any post processing or baits any of his birds for photos?


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There are always a few bird brains in every group, & I suggest that you just ignore this one. You got a nice image & didn't disturb the wildlife in any way, so where's the harm?
Personally, I might have plucked out that blade of grass at the bottom-right. He's probably have had a fit about that, too! ; D


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There is always going to be that person on the internet forums Dave, The know it all, The guy that needs to tell you how it is, we all have branches and sticks, and yes even bait !!... I put mine in this new fangled thing they call a Bird Feeder. If you think about it everything we shoot is baited.. we either sit at the food source or somewhere in between to find the birds and critters we all shoot. I for one grow intolerant of the purest. They are mostly people who never leave the couch and live a Facebook existence, which leads them to believe all the B.S that is conjured up in the minds of the same. You put moss on a log.. No one died or was injured lol Every bird I have posted were baited as goes for everyone here that shot a bird near a feeder or with any type of food or rodent in their mouths. You should not take it to heart. I have come to terms with it and so will you. Now about those sticks in the back ground lol ??

 :p Okay, these made me laugh ! I never even considered the blade of grass, or the twigs in the background ! I did want to know what you all thought, because in my opinion, the level of photography here is so high and is what I aspire to.


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Apr 01, 2017 10:07 |  #7744

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That's another odd thing. For all his supposed photographic experience, I've never seen him post a picture, or in fact, post at all. He seems to have come out, just to go after this picture.

Of course he has no pictures. The sound of the shutter might disturb the little ones & psychologically scar them for life!


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Apr 01, 2017 10:23 as a reply to  @ shooz's post |  #7745

People are crazy Dave... People are crazy.!! Baited Evening Grosbeak Female lol


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Apr 01, 2017 10:37 |  #7746

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I have a question... posting it here because I really respect the photographers in this section. Please give me an honest answer.
I have taken probably over a thousand Bluebird pictures this year. On this morning, the light was perfect, so I thought I would try to add a little colour to where the birds were perching. I placed the green moss up on the stump and waited for an opportunity.
I was pretty happy with the result and posted it on Facebook (Canadian Bird Photography), to favorable reviews.
But one guy, with a claimed "over 50 years of bird photography", is all over me for "staging" the photo. Even gone so far as calling me an "unethical Photographer". This is a wild bird, not baited or harmed in any way. I just liked the colour and the light.
I'm fairly new to bird photography and photography in general.
Would very much appreciate honest opinions here so as to not cross any lines in the future, Thanks.

I am certain he is complaining about your endangering the moss. We all know that moss is an endangered species, particularly the type of moss you placed on the stump. It is known to grow only once every 7,343 years and only in that particularly location. By moving it you will cause it to grow next in 14,686 years. He is angry that he will not live to see the next growth. He is an avid moss photographer, and you have ruined his plans. He actually baits moss by nailing little birdies to spots where he wants it to grow.


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Apr 01, 2017 10:56 |  #7747

Ibis keeping an eye on me this morning

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Apr 01, 2017 11:01 |  #7748

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That's another odd thing. For all his supposed photographic experience, I've never seen him post a picture, or in fact, post at all. He seems to have come out, just to go after this picture.

That means he is a troll and should be ignored. No matter what you post someone will find a way to find it objectionable. This goes for everything, not just photography.

Ask him to see some of his photos. Bet he goes away.

Or just stop using that forum. I have left several FB groups because of crap like this, some people are under the mistaken impression that they are in charge of everything and act as the self-appointed arbiters of taste, ethics, science, medicine, etc. I challenged one of these "experts" in pet bird medicine once on a FB group (she held herself out as the all knowing expert on all things to do with pet bird nutrition and care and basically told everyone who didn't do exactly as she said that they were abusing their animals). And I am a veterinarian with a MS in Avian Sciences who specialized in birds when I was in practice a while ago and know just a little about this). I challenged her nonsenical statements-asked for science or some sort of reference, and she never responded. I looked at her profile to see what her expert qualifications were. Real estate agent. I left the group. Good riddance, life is too short for crap like that. Most of my responses to jackasses like that are not printable here.

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Apr 01, 2017 11:07 |  #7749

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Of course he has no pictures. The sound of the shutter might disturb the little ones & psychologically scar them for life!

LOL!!!


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Apr 01, 2017 14:00 |  #7752

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Apr 01, 2017 16:31 |  #7754

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Apr 01, 2017 16:43 |  #7755

Pectoral Sandpiper:
These birds spend the winter in South America and the summers in the arctic tundra of North America. They are migrating through Texas right now. A helpful birder told me where to find this specimen, although he called it a Baird's Sandpiper. So, not a lifer, but a seldom seen species for me. He was close, about 15 meters and very much undisturbed by my presence. Later, another birder, dressed in white, with a big white lens, approached and he soon departed.

These are the two best portraits, out of the several image I took, center focus point, Ai Servo, High speed continuous. One is in the sun, the other, light overcast.


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