Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Macro Talk 
Thread started 11 Apr 2017 (Tuesday) 15:25
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Which Canon body for Macro?

 
Ronny ­ Geenen
Member
Avatar
125 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2011
     
Apr 11, 2017 15:25 |  #1

Which canon body is best to use for macro photography: 60D, 70D or the new 77D?
I have the lenses, but only the 40D.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
BlakeC
"Dad was a meat cutter"
Avatar
2,673 posts
Gallery: 372 photos
Likes: 675
Joined Jul 2014
Location: West Michigan, USA
     
Apr 11, 2017 15:32 |  #2

77D


Blake C
BlakeC-Photography.com (external link)
Follow Me on Facebook (external link) , Instagram (external link), or Google+ (external link)
80D |70D | SL1 - Σ 18-35 1.8 ART, Σ 50-100 1.8 ART, Σ 17-50 2.8, Canon 24 2.8 Pancake, Canon 50 1.8 STM, Canon 10-18 STM, Canon 18-135 STM

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
troutfisher
Goldmember
Avatar
1,663 posts
Gallery: 23 photos
Likes: 32
Joined Apr 2007
Location: West Yorkshire UK
     
Apr 11, 2017 15:32 |  #3

Do a search for Lord V in the Macro section, you will get advice from an expert


Chris
" Age and treachery will always defeat youth and enthusiasm"

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MalVeauX
"Looks rough and well used"
Avatar
13,354 posts
Gallery: 1718 photos
Best ofs: 4
Likes: 10828
Joined Feb 2013
Location: Florida
     
Apr 11, 2017 15:37 |  #4

Stick to your 40D.

If you want to improve your macro, first is composition, then its lighting. Introduce lighting. Lighting is everything in macro as far as I'm concerned after composition.

What kind of macro are you doing?
How do you do it? (rail, hand, etc)
What lighting are you using?
What conditions do you shoot in (direct sun, shade, etc)?
What lenses are you using?
What's your goal?
Can you post an example of your macro that you think is great and would have been better with a newer camera sensor?

Very best,


My Flickr (external link) :: My Astrobin (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BlakeC
"Dad was a meat cutter"
Avatar
2,673 posts
Gallery: 372 photos
Likes: 675
Joined Jul 2014
Location: West Michigan, USA
Post edited over 2 years ago by BlakeC.
     
Apr 11, 2017 15:43 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #5

yea but which of those 3 is the best?  :p


Blake C
BlakeC-Photography.com (external link)
Follow Me on Facebook (external link) , Instagram (external link), or Google+ (external link)
80D |70D | SL1 - Σ 18-35 1.8 ART, Σ 50-100 1.8 ART, Σ 17-50 2.8, Canon 24 2.8 Pancake, Canon 50 1.8 STM, Canon 10-18 STM, Canon 18-135 STM

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ronny ­ Geenen
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
125 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2011
     
Apr 11, 2017 16:03 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #6

OK, I have one problem with the 40D. 3 inch view in the back is fixed. I am retired and have a hip problem which gives me problems to bend.
For the others, I have the 60mm and 100mm lens.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MalVeauX
"Looks rough and well used"
Avatar
13,354 posts
Gallery: 1718 photos
Best ofs: 4
Likes: 10828
Joined Feb 2013
Location: Florida
     
Apr 11, 2017 16:15 |  #7

Ronny Geenen wrote in post #18325356 (external link)
OK, I have one problem with the 40D. 3 inch view in the back is fixed. I am retired and have a hip problem which gives me problems to bend.
For the others, I have the 60mm and 100mm lens.

So are you saying you're looking for an articulating Live View LCD and that's what you use to compose and shoot with at ground level?

Very best,


My Flickr (external link) :: My Astrobin (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
CyberDyneSystems
Admin (type T-2000)
Avatar
50,039 posts
Gallery: 161 photos
Likes: 6763
Joined Apr 2003
Location: Rhode Island USA
Post edited over 2 years ago by CyberDyneSystems.
     
Apr 11, 2017 16:22 |  #8

Ronny Geenen wrote in post #18325356 (external link)
OK, I have one problem with the 40D. 3 inch view in the back is fixed. I am retired and have a hip problem which gives me problems to bend.
For the others, I have the 60mm and 100mm lens.


I would definitely be looking at a modern body with articulating screen then.

70D, 77D or 80D. If coming from a 40D, I would suggest sticking with the XXD line, (70D or 80D)
All your familiar controls will be there, plus a few more. You would be trading ergonomics at all. Stepping down to the 77D line though many parts upgraded, some controls will be unfamiliar.

80D will hold you for a long time, it's a great camera. 70D is good and also has the articulating screen, but the 80D is improved sensor, AF etc.


GEAR LIST
CDS' HOT LINKS
Jake Hegnauer Photography (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ronny ­ Geenen
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
125 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2011
     
Apr 11, 2017 16:38 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #9

Good answer and thank you.
According to some comments, there is little difference in the sensor of the 77D and 80D. Beside that the 77D has a lot less weight.
I do need a body only for macro. The 40D is still good for other work.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Warl0rd
Goldmember
Avatar
2,230 posts
Likes: 152
Joined Aug 2008
Location: Portugal
Post edited over 2 years ago by Warl0rd.
     
Apr 12, 2017 13:24 as a reply to  @ Ronny Geenen's post |  #10

77D has one of the smallest viewfinder on the market, so I would exclude it (unless you plan on using the screen only).

http://www.neocamera.c​om …iewfinder_sizes​?sort=size (external link)


Paulo
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/warl0rd (external link)
Canon 450D (XSi) + Grip | Canon 80D | EF-S 10-22 | EF 24-105 L IS | EF 100mm Macro | MP-E 65mm 1-5X | EF-S 18-55 IS STM | EF-S 55-250 IS | Takumar 55mm 1.8 | MT-24EX | Metz 48-AF1 | YN460 II | Kenko DG Auto ET | Kata 3N1-20 DL | Lowepro SlingShot 100 AW | Mitsai JDC195 | Manfrotto 190XPROB + 484RC2

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Archibald
You must be quackers!
Avatar
9,214 posts
Gallery: 416 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 19688
Joined May 2008
Location: Calgary
     
Apr 12, 2017 14:03 |  #11

Warl0rd wrote in post #18326134 (external link)
77D has one of the smallest viewfinder on the market, so I would exclude it (unless you plan on using the screen only).

http://www.neocamera.c​om …iewfinder_sizes​?sort=size (external link)

Interesting less-familiar parameter to compare cameras.

I have the 7D2 and SL1, and the SL1 has a much smaller viewfinder according to neocamera, but I don't notice any difference when shooting.


Sony RX10 IV, Canon 7D2, Canon 90D, assorted Canon lenses
C&C always welcome.
Picture editing OK
Donate to POTN here

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
41,870 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 2603
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
Post edited over 2 years ago by Wilt.
     
Apr 13, 2017 01:10 |  #12

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18325378 (external link)
If coming from a 40D, I would suggest sticking with the XXD line, (70D or 80D)
All your familiar controls will be there, plus a few more. You would be trading ergonomics at all. Stepping down to the 77D line though many parts upgraded, some controls will be unfamiliar.


But Jake, you forget that Canon did indeed make the nnD more like the nnnD when it launched the 60D, getting rid of the joystick, and getting rid of the PC cord connector...it is now necessary to buy a 7Dn or 5Dn or 1Dn to keep both.

Admittedly, for many it makes little difference. But for some it does make a significant difference.


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Warl0rd
Goldmember
Avatar
2,230 posts
Likes: 152
Joined Aug 2008
Location: Portugal
     
Apr 13, 2017 17:49 |  #13

Archibald wrote in post #18326176 (external link)
Interesting less-familiar parameter to compare cameras.

I have the 7D2 and SL1, and the SL1 has a much smaller viewfinder according to neocamera, but I don't notice any difference when shooting.

I still haven't done macro work with the 80D, but I did notice some differences between the 80D and 450D (same size as our SL1).

The 77D viewfinder is even smaller then your SL1 (which is "amazing" since your SL1 body is smaller then the 77D :P), perhaps canon thinks people are quiting the viewfinder and using DSLR like smartphones :)


Paulo
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/warl0rd (external link)
Canon 450D (XSi) + Grip | Canon 80D | EF-S 10-22 | EF 24-105 L IS | EF 100mm Macro | MP-E 65mm 1-5X | EF-S 18-55 IS STM | EF-S 55-250 IS | Takumar 55mm 1.8 | MT-24EX | Metz 48-AF1 | YN460 II | Kenko DG Auto ET | Kata 3N1-20 DL | Lowepro SlingShot 100 AW | Mitsai JDC195 | Manfrotto 190XPROB + 484RC2

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
CyberDyneSystems
Admin (type T-2000)
Avatar
50,039 posts
Gallery: 161 photos
Likes: 6763
Joined Apr 2003
Location: Rhode Island USA
     
Apr 14, 2017 13:20 |  #14

Wilt wrote in post #18326655 (external link)
But Jake, you forget that Canon did indeed make the nnD more like the nnnD when it launched the 60D, getting rid of the joystick, and getting rid of the PC cord connector...it is now necessary to buy a 7Dn or 5Dn or 1Dn to keep both.

Admittedly, for many it makes little difference. But for some it does make a significant difference.

Actually, what I really forgot, was that the 77D does away with the hard to use Rebel multi-controller d-pad as found on the T7i and most all other rebels and adds in an XXD style wheel,. the likes of which I pretty much can not live without!

Combine that with what you mention, and indeed, control wise, the two are much more similar than my initial post presumed.


GEAR LIST
CDS' HOT LINKS
Jake Hegnauer Photography (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
41,870 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 2603
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
     
Apr 14, 2017 13:56 |  #15

Warl0rd wrote in post #18327244 (external link)
I still haven't done macro work with the 80D, but I did notice some differences between the 80D and 450D (same size as our SL1).

The 77D viewfinder is even smaller then your SL1 (which is "amazing" since your SL1 body is smaller then the 77D :P), perhaps canon thinks people are quiting the viewfinder and using DSLR like smartphones :)

Let's keep everything in context though

  • T6: 5184x3456 pixels, viewfinder mag 0.80x, viewfinder area 95%
  • SL1: 5184x3456 pixels, viewfinder mag 0.87x, viewfinder area 95%
  • 77D: 6000x4000 pixels, viewfinder mag 0.82x, viewfinder area 95%
  • T7i: 6000x4000 pixels, viewfinder mag 0.82x, viewfinder area 95%
  • T7: 5184x3456 pixels, viewfinder mag 1.0x, viewfinder area 100%



So the 77D viewfinder is indeed a bit better than the T6 and the same as the T7i, yet very inferior to the T7 specs! Yet the T7 has inferior pixel count to the T7i. Canon yet again exhibits some real discombobulation in positioning products to confuse the buyer!

You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

17,896 views & 12 likes for this thread
Which Canon body for Macro?
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Macro Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Jpremon
640 guests, 331 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.