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Thoughts on the EF24-70 f4L?

 
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Apr 16, 2017 20:28 |  #46

dave_bass5 wrote in post #18326879 (external link)
as far as IQ goes, but im also happy with my 80D and 18-135 so i dont NEED the best

I recently picked up a 80D. How to you find the image quality with the 18-135 compared to the 16-35L? I like the focal range of the 18-135. I haven't had time to really test this lens. The IQ on my 16-35 is outstanding. If the IQ of a the 18-135 will permit sharp 16x20 prints it would be a fantastic walk around lens on the 80D and I can keep the 16-35 on the 5D iii.


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Apr 17, 2017 05:43 |  #47

jcothron wrote in post #18329745 (external link)
Nice shots Dave, what do you think about sharpness, etc.? Particularly in the corners.

Thanks. I'm very happy with the IQ across the frame. Ive seen much worse from lenses in this price range. Of course the corners aren't going to match the center, but I would have no issues cropping a shot to include a corner or edge.

There is a test I always do where i shoot across the river thames to a row of tress and buildings on the opposite bank. I think pixel peep the edges and corners. Recently ive had lenses that are mushy and soft, sometimes just on one side. This lens though ive very good and I'd say its very close to what my 24-70 f/2.8 mkii produces.


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Apr 17, 2017 05:48 |  #48

Larry20d wrote in post #18329791 (external link)
I recently picked up a 80D. How to you find the image quality with the 18-135 compared to the 16-35L? I like the focal range of the 18-135. I haven't had time to really test this lens. The IQ on my 16-35 is outstanding. If the IQ of a the 18-135 will permit sharp 16x20 prints it would be a fantastic walk around lens on the 80D and I can keep the 16-35 on the 5D iii.

Well i love both lenses but the 16-35 f/4 is very hard to beat as far as overal IQ goes. I will say that its sharper on the edges and corners than the 18-135 nano, but the versatility of the 18-135 far outweighs this, as long as the light is good of course.
Like you I would tend to use the 16-35 for full frame, and let the 18-135 and 10-18 do the honours on my 80D. The 10-18 was the lens that sold me on going wider than the usual (24 FF, 18 crop). I just love the 10-18 on my 80D, just like i love the 16-35 on my 5D.


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Apr 17, 2017 07:35 |  #49

Maybe it's just me or even my copy of the 24-70 f4/l, but I found it very underwhelming in almost every way. The only things I found great about this lens was the weight and build, but on a 5D IV, I just wasn't particularly thrilled with it and wanted to replace it, but I didn't know what with. So for the few months that I did use it, I found the majority of my shots were between 30mm and 45mm so I figured what the hell and picked up the 35mm f/1.4 II --

I was thinking I made a terrible mistake as I've always used a zoom for my general/walkabout lens but honestly, this lens has really opened up a new way I think about my shots and they're better for it.


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Apr 17, 2017 07:38 |  #50

jaa wrote in post #18330111 (external link)
Maybe it's just me or even my copy of the 24-70 f4/l, but I found it very underwhelming in almost every way. The only things I found great about this lens was the weight and build, but on a 5D IV, I just wasn't particularly thrilled with it and wanted to replace it, but I didn't know what with. So for the few months that I did use it, I found the majority of my shots were between 30mm and 45mm so I figured what the hell and picked up the 35mm f/1.4 II --

I was thinking I made a terrible mistake as I've always used a zoom for my general/walkabout lens but honestly, this lens has really opened up a new way I think about my shots and they're better for it.

What aspect were you not thrilled with? Something specific? Sharpness, distortion, etc. or you found you just didnt use it a lot?


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Apr 17, 2017 08:58 |  #51

jcothron wrote in post #18330116 (external link)
What aspect were you not thrilled with? Something specific? Sharpness, distortion, etc. or you found you just didnt use it a lot?

It's hard to quantify, but I guess the quality/feel of my shots seemed to have taken a step backwards coming from my 7D 17-55mm f/2.8 IS -- the lens itself is plenty sharp and there wasn't anything that really made me dislike the lens, but for me, it was just very mediocre ... who knows, maybe my copy is a dud or I'm just not that good with it as I've seen a lot of shots from other photographers on this site with that produce some stunning captures.


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Apr 17, 2017 16:20 |  #52

jaa wrote in post #18330165 (external link)
It's hard to quantify, but I guess the quality/feel of my shots seemed to have taken a step backwards coming from my 7D 17-55mm f/2.8 IS -- the lens itself is plenty sharp and there wasn't anything that really made me dislike the lens, but for me, it was just very mediocre ... who knows, maybe my copy is a dud or I'm just not that good with it as I've seen a lot of shots from other photographers on this site with that produce some stunning captures.

My 24-70 is way better than the last 3 17-55 f/2.8's ive had on my old 60D, and one just rencelty on my 80D. All were sent back as they were all soft or/and de centered. The last copy i had at the end of last year was not what I'd expect from a lens costing this much. I did have a 17-55 f/2.8 for almost 5 years when it first came out, that was indeed very good, but looking back at those shots there actually weren't anything really special.
I do agree the 24-70 range on FF is a bit boring, I doubt ill be getting too creative with this lens, but i cant fault the actual IQ of it.


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Apr 18, 2017 01:35 |  #53

dave_bass5 wrote in post #18330520 (external link)
My 24-70 is way better than the last 3 17-55 f/2.8's ive had on my old 60D, and one just rencelty on my 80D. All were sent back as they were all soft or/and de centered. The last copy i had at the end of last year was not what I'd expect from a lens costing this much.

I never saw an acceptable copy of that supposedly-legendary lens, and I think I tried 6. Most were decentered, and a couple mis-focused something rotten. Well done, Canon! :rolleyes:

My 24-70 isn't perfectly aligned, but it's the best effort I've seen from Canon in years.

How do you find the focus shift on your 24-70? On mine it really takes the edge off images if I shoot down to f/8 in the middle of its focal length range, even for subjects 100s of metres away. Focusing at 70mm and zooming back out seems to provide enough front-focus to compensate.


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Apr 18, 2017 02:11 |  #54

ettlz wrote in post #18330882 (external link)
I never saw an acceptable copy of that supposedly-legendary lens, and I think I tried 6. Most were decentered, and a couple mis-focused something rotten. Well done, Canon! :rolleyes:

My 24-70 isn't perfectly aligned, but it's the best effort I've seen from Canon in years.

How do you find the focus shift on your 24-70? On mine it really takes the edge off images if I shoot down to f/8 in the middle of its focal length range, even for subjects 100s of metres away. Focusing at 70mm and zooming back out seems to provide enough front-focus to compensate.

I cant say ive noticed any focus shift. I did read something about it in a couple of reviews but didnt pay much attattion to them back then, and have forgotten about it. Ill have to check mine later today to see how big an issue it will be, but i have a feeling its not going to be a big deal. I tend to short more at either end than in the middle range.


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