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Apr 20, 2017 09:24 |  #1

Hi all,

Looking at either buying or building a PC/iMac, which I know both have valid points; however, every search comes up with articles in the past. So, does anyone have a website they truly trust? I have a desktop that is not performing...I think a fan went bad and I'm too lazy in trying to figure out how to fix it. I would buy or build another PC, but I've always wanted to dip my toe in the Apple world. I'm hopping to increase my weddings and sport shoots soon and want to make sure the next pc can handle the work flow. I use lightroom now and PS, and that's about it. Thanks in advance. Thanks!

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Apr 20, 2017 09:37 |  #2

If your too lazy to open up your computer and check a fan and possibly replace it, I don't think building your own is for you.


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Apr 20, 2017 12:06 as a reply to  @ silvrr's post |  #3

HAHA so true...I should have perficient my statement, that I don't know what to look for.




  
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Apr 21, 2017 08:46 |  #4

One can still be lazy and 'build' their own PC. Every 5 years I spend the time to research what components I should buy. Then I find a computer shop that will build oit for me. Usually they charge $50 provided you buy some of the components from them.

...but if my PC is not performing well I'm not too lazy to figure out if a component part needs replacing. I'd need to be rich to that lazy. :-D

There are hundreds of photogs online right now asking this question on different websites such as this. Find one with someone who has the same pricepoint as you. Read reviews. Reddit has several useful groups as well.


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Apr 21, 2017 08:49 |  #5

or just read the more recent builds posted on this thread: https://photography-on-the.net …ead.php?t=57682​8&page=121


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Apr 25, 2017 15:54 |  #6
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if you want quality then building is the only option


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Apr 27, 2017 14:29 |  #7

Mike T.M. wrote in post #18332867 (external link)
Hi all,

Looking at either buying or building a PC/iMac, which I know both have valid points; however, every search comes up with articles in the past. So, does anyone have a website they truly trust? I have a desktop that is not performing...I think a fan went bad and I'm too lazy in trying to figure out how to fix it. I would buy or build another PC, but I've always wanted to dip my toe in the Apple world. I'm hopping to increase my weddings and sport shoots soon and want to make sure the next pc can handle the work flow. I use lightroom now and PS, and that's about it. Thanks in advance. Thanks!

MTM

Exactly what desktop are you currently using? Checking the fan on a desktop is a very simple procedure and likely to cost $10 or less. I would seriously check the fan before replacement of the desktop. The procedure often entails the removal of a few screws, disconnecting a cable assembly and the reverse to reassemble. Then, if you fix it, consider replacing the HDD with an SSD. That will give you a big performance boost.




  
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Apr 27, 2017 14:46 |  #8

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if you want quality then building is the only option

That use to be true but no so much anymore. There are a lot of PCs out there every bit as good as what you can build for not a whole lot more. Maybe the one exception i for a hard core gaming machine but even there, you can buy some pretty beastly machines pre-built.


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Apr 27, 2017 16:17 as a reply to  @ John from PA's post |  #9

I have the HP Pavilion Elite HPE Series. Should the fan be running all the time while it's on or only when using programs? It could be a user error :)




  
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Mike T.M. wrote in post #18340319 (external link)
I have the HP Pavilion Elite HPE Series. Should the fan be running all the time while it's on or only when using programs? It could be a user error :)

define a fan? CPU fan? case fan? video card fan? PSU fan?

most run all the time, but will rev higher when under stress


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Apr 27, 2017 17:48 |  #11
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gjl711 wrote in post #18340256 (external link)
That use to be true but no so much anymore. There are a lot of PCs out there every bit as good as what you can build for not a whole lot more. Maybe the one exception i for a hard core gaming machine but even there, you can buy some pretty beastly machines pre-built.

I completely disagree

I deal with HP, dells, lenovos almost on daily basis, and never seen one that was decently build with good components.

Memory is slowest possible speed, some low quality brand or some generic stuff.
PSU is some low-end bargain bin trash that is barely strong enough to run the system, add a video card or few hard drives and the PSU will barely supply enough power to run the system
what do you get with normal pre-build system? one year warranty, want more may more, want to actually speak to someone that you can understand, sure pay for "premium" US support.

with custom build system, if you pick good parts, you get (for no extra cost)
3 years on CPU
3 years on board
lifetime on memory
5-10 on power supply
3-10 on video card
2-5 on hard drive or SSD

other thing that really ticks me off about all pre-build systems, very often they used non-standard parts, different connectors, PSU that are different shape, its called ATX standard for a reason.

Lenovo also likes to clue the heatsink for CPU on.
Dell and HP also like to glue the motherboards to the case.


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Apr 27, 2017 18:53 |  #12

Mike T.M. wrote in post #18340319 (external link)
I have the HP Pavilion Elite HPE Series. Should the fan be running all the time while it's on or only when using programs? It could be a user error :)

Do you know specifically what HP Elite HPE you have? There is one from about two years ago, the HP Pavilion Elite HPE-100 Desktop Computer that was quite popular. Since it has an Intel i5 3.20 GHz CPU it is certainly worth maintaining at this time as opposed to replacing. You don't strike me as a power user so it still has a lot of life in it.

It shouldn't be running all the time and may or may not be running when using programs. It depends on what the CPU is doing.

What makes you think you need a fan? Noise (describe if that is the case), errors that are releted to temperature, etc?

Have you ever opened the case and cleaned out the filter and fan area? You should likely have two fans, one that ventilates the case and one positioned over the CPU.




  
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Apr 27, 2017 22:02 |  #13

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I completely disagree

I deal with HP, dells, lenovos almost on daily basis, and never seen one that was decently build with good components.
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That's because you are dealing with HPs, Dells, and Lenovos. That's like judging a burger on McDonalds, Hardies, and Burger King and calling all hamburgers crap.


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Apr 28, 2017 11:48 |  #14

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That's because you are dealing with HPs, Dells, and Lenovos. That's like judging a burger on McDonalds, Hardies, and Burger King and calling all hamburgers crap.

Perhaps you need to give examples of the PC vendors that are made of decent components.


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Apr 28, 2017 13:39 |  #15

No one builds an iMac, but they might put together a Mac build. Two go to sites: www.hackintosh.com (external link) and https://www.tonymacx86​.com/ (external link). Complete with buying guides.

Involves a lot of work and not without some obstacles.

Otherwise... if you have the funds, go for a genuine Mac Pro build. I'd love to have a $20,000 powerhouse with multiple redundancies and a 42 inch curved monitor. That's on my wish list.


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