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Apr 21, 2017 09:52 |  #1816

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18333710 (external link)
A more power efficient gpu is also easier to overclock and requires less expensive cooling solutions. ever wondered why the Fury X requires water cooling?

As i said before Nvidias 900 and their current 1000 series are simply better than the AMD cards and I am pretty sure the sales figures would also support my claims.
It wasn't until the release of the much more efficient rx 400 series that AMD managed to gain some market share:
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Don't forget that even AMD themselves used the GTX 1080 when they showed off their Ryzen 7 1800x...

I was never arguing that Nvidea cards aren't better (I'm using 2 of them, remember?), my point is that they're not that far behind Nvidea for equal generations/pricing and I don't see it outside the realm of possibility for them to come out with something nearly as good as the 1080 Ti for less money. I doubt it'll happen this year though.


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Apr 22, 2017 01:32 |  #1817

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I was never arguing that Nvidea cards aren't better (I'm using 2 of them, remember?), my point is that they're not that far behind Nvidea for equal generations/pricing and I don't see it outside the realm of possibility for them to come out with something nearly as good as the 1080 Ti for less money. I doubt it'll happen this year though.

Things do look better for AMD with their RX cards but even the latest RX 580 can't seem to match the gtx 1060 6gb which is a mid-range card which is why i doubt they will be able to catch up let alone surpass nvidia in the next year or two


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Apr 22, 2017 16:56 |  #1818

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Things do look better for AMD with their RX cards but even the latest RX 580 can't seem to match the gtx 1060 6gb which is a mid-range card which is why i doubt they will be able to catch up let alone surpass nvidia in the next year or two

The RX 400 and rebadged 500 series were always meant to be mid to low range cards, the 480/580 is very similar in performance to the 1060 variants, the real problem for AMD is that the 1060 outsells the 480 at a rate between 4-5 to 1.

Vega will be AMD's entry to the higher end when it launches sometime in the next few months, so far it's being hyped but the information and leaks have it being at around 1080 performance, Nvidia already have three cards above that performance wise and now the 1080 has dropped in price and available on the used market, will be hard for AMD to gain any market share when they are always so late to market with competitive products.

On the CPU front Ryzen is a very competitive product, but yet again Intel has been delivering similar performance for around 3 years, If you have a PC based on X99 or anything from a 4770k up there is not much reason to look at replacing it with anything currently available from Intel or AMD unless you need to increase the number of cores your CPU has.

The biggest market for anything AMD currently has to offer is for current AMD users, you don't grow market share by selling to people already using your product, AMD needs to release products that outperform Intel and Nvidia if they truly want to grow.


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Apr 22, 2017 22:18 |  #1819

Welp it's me the 36 year old who finally got his new PC decked out in red LEDs like he's wanted since he was 20. The cool thing about the mobo is that I can switch colors of the LEDs so I might end up switching fan colors when I get tired of red. Anyways here's the specs.:
CPU:Intel Core I7 7700k
MOBO:Gigabyte Z270x-Ultra Gaming
RAM: 16gb GSkill Trident 3400 DDR4
Boot SSD:Intel 600 Series 256gb NVME
Photo SSD:Toshiba 256gb SATA 6
Photo Storage:Seagate 7200rpm 2tb SATA 6
GPU:Gigabyte Mini 1070 8gb
PS:Corsair CH650M
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Apr 24, 2017 22:44 as a reply to  @ HorribleAvatar's post |  #1820

Nice looking PC, but why two small SSDs, is there some advantage to that? Larger capacity SSDs perform better and more efficiently and prices have dropped, why not just one 512gb?




  
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Apr 25, 2017 08:41 as a reply to  @ Kent Clark's post |  #1821

I bought the Toshiba sata SSD back in 2015 and it just got migrated over from the old system. When bonus time comes at the end of May I'll get another PCIE SSD that my photos will go on, it will replace the Toshiba, there isn't really a performance benefit from that set up I just like to keep my photo edits on a separate physical drive as opposed to a separate partition or something like that.


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Apr 25, 2017 09:11 |  #1822

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Nice looking PC, but why two small SSDs, is there some advantage to that? Larger capacity SSDs perform better and more efficiently and prices have dropped, why not just one 512gb?

I like having a small SSD for OS and programs. Data goes on a separate hard drive or NAS. This way a drive failure means all that data is still available to the rest of the network and you just need to rebuild the 1 machine. Keep an image of the drive after the OS, programs and drivers are installed and a rebuild of the computer can be really quick.


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Apr 25, 2017 09:19 |  #1823

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I like having a small SSD for OS and programs. Data goes on a separate hard drive or NAS. This way a drive failure means all that data is still available to the rest of the network and you just need to rebuild the 1 machine. Keep an image of the drive after the OS, programs and drivers are installed and a rebuild of the computer can be really quick.

Indeed, having a backup image is super convenient.


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Apr 25, 2017 09:30 |  #1824

What's the ballpark cost for the system mentioned above?

CPU:Intel Core I7 7700k
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RAM: 16gb GSkill Trident 3400 DDR4 Boot
SSD:Intel 600 Series 256gb NVME Photo
SSD:Toshiba 256gb SATA 6
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Apr 25, 2017 09:34 |  #1825

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What's the ballpark cost for the above system?

I'd say around $1200 depending on how hard you look for deals, rebates, or possibly buying used parts.

Edit: Oops I under priced that system by quite a bit I ran the numbers on Newegg and currently it comes to $1623.88, I put together the system over the course of a few months and bought some of it used so my total expenditure is lower than that Newegg price.


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Apr 25, 2017 12:59 |  #1826
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FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18334532 (external link)
Things do look better for AMD with their RX cards but even the latest RX 580 can't seem to match the gtx 1060 6gb which is a mid-range card which is why i doubt they will be able to catch up let alone surpass nvidia in the next year or two

of course RX580 can't match it, RX580 is pretty much the same RX480 from the past.

You can flash RX480 with RX580 bios to get the same "benefit"


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Apr 25, 2017 13:11 |  #1827
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my server:

2x Intel Xeon (Haswell-based) E5-2658 V3 12 Core 2.2GHZ (2.9ghz turbo)
24 cores (48 threads total)
Supermicro X10DAX-O Motherboard
32GB Kingston DDR4 2400mhz ECC Memory (soon 64gb)
12 storage hard drives (6 are 8TB, 3 are 5tb, 3 are 4TB) Total 75TB
Intel 256GB SSD boot drive
EVGA Geforce 630 video card
EVGA 1300W G2 Power Supply
LG Blu-ray drive
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Apr 25, 2017 14:04 |  #1828

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my server:

2x Intel Xeon (Haswell-based) E5-2658 V3 12 Core 2.2GHZ (2.9ghz turbo)
24 cores (48 threads total)
Supermicro X10DAX-O Motherboard
32GB Kingston DDR4 2400mhz ECC Memory (soon 64gb)
12 storage hard drives (6 are 8TB, 3 are 5tb, 3 are 4TB) Total 75TB
Intel 256GB SSD boot drive
EVGA Geforce 630 video card
EVGA 1300W G2 Power Supply
LG Blu-ray drive
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Any chance you could post a picture of this please?


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Apr 25, 2017 14:11 |  #1829

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #18338147 (external link)
my server:

2x Intel Xeon (Haswell-based) E5-2658 V3 12 Core 2.2GHZ (2.9ghz turbo)
24 cores (48 threads total)
Supermicro X10DAX-O Motherboard
32GB Kingston DDR4 2400mhz ECC Memory (soon 64gb)
12 storage hard drives (6 are 8TB, 3 are 5tb, 3 are 4TB) Total 75TB
Intel 256GB SSD boot drive
EVGA Geforce 630 video card
EVGA 1300W G2 Power Supply
LG Blu-ray drive
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What do you use it for?


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Apr 25, 2017 15:26 |  #1830
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Any chance you could post a picture of this please?

I will take some later...

here is a pick from few months ago, during the assembly process.


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