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Feedback on the Tamron 10-24 VC

 
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May 09, 2017 05:14 |  #1

Hello everyone!

I currently own the Canon EF-S 10-22, but I'm looking at the new Tamron 10-24 VC as an alternative UWA travel lens for indoor shots when I don't have a tripod with me. I don't think the Tokina 11-16 2.8 would be an option since going from 3.5 to 2.8 shouldn't make much difference.

Does any of you have this lens or tried it? I couldn't find many review (MTF values) for this lens (just one from photozine)...


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May 09, 2017 09:43 |  #2

Dustin abbot has a review with a couple of good youtube videos

https://dustinabbott.n​et …m-f3-5-4-5-vc-hld-review/ (external link)

Also the digital picture has crops

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=0 (external link)

I haven't seen any mtf number type reviews


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May 09, 2017 14:37 |  #3

I also have the EF-S 10-22, and recently purchased the Tamron 10-24 VC. I have not had a lot of time to play with it, but my primary motive for making the purchase was the extreme coma distortion with the 10-22 in astrophotography. Based on Dustin Abbott's review, while there is still some coma with the 10-24, it appears to be much better. I was able to fine-tune the focus of the new lens with the Tap-in console (more because I had the console than because the lens needed it), and the focus is fast and accurate. The new HLD focus motor is quiet and quick. I also suspect that the VC will come in handy. The biggest issue here is that the 10-24 is a much newer design, and takes advantage of newer technology. I have no regrets, at this early stage.


Digital EOS 90D Canon: EF 50mm f/1.8 II, EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro, Life-Size Converter EF Tamron: SP 17-50mm f/2.8 DiII, 18-400mm f/3.5-6.3 DiII VC HLD, SP 150-600 f/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2, SP 70-200 f/2.8 Di VC USD, 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 DiII VC HLD Sigma: 30mm f/1.4 DC Art Rokinon: 8mm f/3.5 AS IF UMC

  
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May 09, 2017 16:04 as a reply to  @ pknight's post |  #4

@pknight can you perform micro AF adjustment using the camera body or is the Tamron Tap-in the only way to do it with 3rd party lenses?


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May 09, 2017 19:32 |  #5

Warl0rd wrote in post #18350316 (external link)
@pknight can you perform micro AF adjustment using the camera body or is the Tamron Tap-in the only way to do it with 3rd party lenses?

Depends on the body. If you don't have AFMA in the body then you can't. If you do you can.


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May 10, 2017 06:57 |  #6

Warl0rd wrote in post #18350316 (external link)
@pknight can you perform micro AF adjustment using the camera body or is the Tamron Tap-in the only way to do it with 3rd party lenses?

Yeah, you can AMFA any lens if your camera body allows it. The Tamron console and Sigma dock just allow you to make adjustments at more focal lengths and distances. The idea is that the optimal amount of adjustment at different focus distances and at different focal lengths does not necessarily change in a linear fashion, as is assumed by AMFA at a single distance, or when you can only adjust at the extreme focal lengths of a zoom.


Digital EOS 90D Canon: EF 50mm f/1.8 II, EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro, Life-Size Converter EF Tamron: SP 17-50mm f/2.8 DiII, 18-400mm f/3.5-6.3 DiII VC HLD, SP 150-600 f/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2, SP 70-200 f/2.8 Di VC USD, 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 DiII VC HLD Sigma: 30mm f/1.4 DC Art Rokinon: 8mm f/3.5 AS IF UMC

  
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May 10, 2017 12:12 as a reply to  @ pknight's post |  #7

Yeah my 80D only allows at both extremes. I was asking this because I had to AFMA almost all my lenses on the 80D...

The dock is always nice to have, but I always end up feeling that's a way for them to slack up on quality control, they put us doing their lens calibration...


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May 10, 2017 16:56 |  #8

Excited to see some real world samples of this lens. Have been considering the Canon 10-22 on my 70D for quite some time now.




  
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May 11, 2017 06:08 |  #9

Warl0rd wrote in post #18351069 (external link)
Yeah my 80D only allows at both extremes. I was asking this because I had to AFMA almost all my lenses on the 80D...

The dock is always nice to have, but I always end up feeling that's a way for them to slack up on quality control, they put us doing their lens calibration...

Well, since you have a lot of Canon glass, your need to AFMA your lenses is not a matter of third-party quality control alone!:-) FWIW, I was not noticing any problems with this lens before I adjusted it. I got the console free when I purchased my 150-600 G2, so I was compelled to use it. Lenses in this focal distance range are pretty forgiving. I suspect that adjusting at the extremes, if AFMA is needed, would do the trick. With longer lenses the intermediate focal lengths and distance are probably more important.


Digital EOS 90D Canon: EF 50mm f/1.8 II, EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro, Life-Size Converter EF Tamron: SP 17-50mm f/2.8 DiII, 18-400mm f/3.5-6.3 DiII VC HLD, SP 150-600 f/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2, SP 70-200 f/2.8 Di VC USD, 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 DiII VC HLD Sigma: 30mm f/1.4 DC Art Rokinon: 8mm f/3.5 AS IF UMC

  
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May 11, 2017 06:20 |  #10

Smitty2k1 wrote in post #18351377 (external link)
Excited to see some real world samples of this lens. Have been considering the Canon 10-22 on my 70D for quite some time now.

As an owner of both, with little experience with the Tamron yet, and years of experience with the 10-22, I would have to recommend the Tamron without hesitation if you are not in the used market. Even if you didn't pay $150 more for the Canon, the Tamron is a better lens, with less distortion, better weather sealing, and four-stop VC. I don't know if there is a photo sample thread for this lens here yet, but there are numerous reviews out there with lots of examples. I don't make video with my DSLR much, but the video people seem very excited about this lens. The new HLD motor is apparently very quiet and responsive when making video.

Now, as someone who will be selling his 10-22 in the near future, that lens can be a great bargain used! ;-)a


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May 11, 2017 12:50 as a reply to  @ pknight's post |  #11

From what I read the distortions on the Tamron are a lot worst than on the Canon 10-22.

Tamron: Distortion at 10mm is a fairly obvious -3.35% of barrelling. By 15mm this has changed to near perfect rendering, showing just +0.05% of pincushion. This does increase slightly as we zoom in, with pincushion distortion measuring +1.12% at 20mm and +1.30% at 24mm [https://www.ephotozine​.com …i-ii-vc-hld-review-30657] (external link)

Canon: Geometric distortion is fairly low, for such a wide-angle lens, ranging from about 0.5% barrel distortion at 10mm to about 0.2% pincushion at 22mm. (The zero distortion point is somewhere around 15-16mm.) [http://www.imaging-resource.com …2mm-f3.5-4.5-usm/review/] (external link)


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May 11, 2017 15:34 as a reply to  @ Warl0rd's post |  #12

Barrel and pincushion distortion are simple to deal with in post, and frankly are noticeable only under limited circumstances (photos of brick walls, anyone?). A couple clicks in LR and it's fixed, and once Adobe comes out with a lens profile, it will be even easier. Coma distortion is practically impossible to deal with, and the 10-22 is notably worse in this regard, based on my own experience.

The ephotozine.com review you link to sums up this lens very well. It is an amazingly positive review.


Digital EOS 90D Canon: EF 50mm f/1.8 II, EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro, Life-Size Converter EF Tamron: SP 17-50mm f/2.8 DiII, 18-400mm f/3.5-6.3 DiII VC HLD, SP 150-600 f/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2, SP 70-200 f/2.8 Di VC USD, 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 DiII VC HLD Sigma: 30mm f/1.4 DC Art Rokinon: 8mm f/3.5 AS IF UMC

  
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May 12, 2017 04:46 as a reply to  @ pknight's post |  #13

not only on brick walls, if you shoot cityscapes, you will notice it in the buildings... if you shot indoors, you'll notice it as well.

I guess it depends on the type of photography you do, I usually don't do stars, so all the fringes go away with a click on the lens profile on lightroom.


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May 12, 2017 08:33 |  #14

Warl0rd wrote in post #18352578 (external link)
not only on brick walls, if you shoot cityscapes, you will notice it in the buildings... if you shot indoors, you'll notice it as well.

I guess it depends on the type of photography you do, I usually don't do stars, so all the fringes go away with a click on the lens profile on lightroom.

The same is true for barrel distortion. It is no problem to remove it in Lightroom.


Digital EOS 90D Canon: EF 50mm f/1.8 II, EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro, Life-Size Converter EF Tamron: SP 17-50mm f/2.8 DiII, 18-400mm f/3.5-6.3 DiII VC HLD, SP 150-600 f/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2, SP 70-200 f/2.8 Di VC USD, 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 DiII VC HLD Sigma: 30mm f/1.4 DC Art Rokinon: 8mm f/3.5 AS IF UMC

  
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May 12, 2017 08:37 |  #15

pknight wrote in post #18352704 (external link)
The same is true for barrel distortion. It is no problem to remove it in Lightroom.

When LR does that though, doesn't it essentially have to crop the image down a bit to get everything straight? So a 10mm wide image corrected with more distortion would look more like a 11mm wide image than a 10mm wide image taken from a lens with less distortion? Do you still have both lenses where you could do a test at 10mm and then correct then in LR and see if one image looks wider?


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