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May 12, 2017 20:43 |  #31

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Can someone tell me for sure that Macs are safe from this threat or that they are not?

Can't quite say for sure. From what Ive lightly read it's wintel boxes. Haven't seen anything regarding macs. Try ol google?

Edit: yep. Wintel


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May 12, 2017 20:55 |  #32

Thanks for the warning, Windows 10 just did an auto update and restart on me!


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May 12, 2017 21:00 |  #33

More on this. Apparently if your windows is up to date, you are immune.
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May 12, 2017 21:18 |  #34

OhLook wrote in post #18353284 (external link)
Can someone tell me for sure that Macs are safe from this threat or that they are not?

This specific attack affects unpatched Microsoft Windows systems, however the general concept of a ransomware attack is a potential risk on any platform.

Maintaining good multi-level backups is very important if you want to keep your data safe, regardless of what OS you are running.


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May 12, 2017 21:24 |  #35

Multilevel backups for sure. And offline. These types of worms/viruses are very good at traversing file systems.


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May 12, 2017 21:26 |  #36

You should do this randomly anyway.

Only 2 types of people, those that have lost data and those that are going to lose data.


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May 12, 2017 22:08 |  #37

ejenner wrote in post #18353326 (external link)
You should do this randomly anyway.

Only 2 types of people, those that have lost data and those that are going to lose data.

As one of the first category, I'd argue there is a 3rd,
- those that have lost data and maybe will again. ;)

I do what I can not to be in that 3rd category. But I would not claim to be perfect.


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May 12, 2017 22:12 |  #38

Thanks, folks. It does appear that Macs are immune, and the targets are organizations, not homes. I use flash drives to back up photos and some documents. E-mails are harder to duplicate. Getting a new computer on Monday, will have to copy everything to an external drive then, don't want to do it twice.


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May 12, 2017 22:17 |  #39

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18353349 (external link)
As one of the first category, I'd argue there is a 3rd,
- those that have lost data and maybe will again. ;)

I do what I can not to be in that 3rd category. But I would not claim to be perfect.


Yea, I was thinking about that as I was typing.

I do sometimes lose something too. I also sometimes accidentally delete stuff and have to de-do work (or photos).

I recently had a drive fail on my work laptop and my work IT colleagues seemed surprised when I asks for a new disk drive and didn't seem too phased about it. They asked if I wanted them to try to recover anything on it and I just tossed it in the trash (then they recovered it for 'disposal').


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May 12, 2017 23:16 |  #40

As well as a physical backup, to an external drive
i use backblaze cloud

Are cloud backups (mostly) safe ?


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May 12, 2017 23:18 |  #41

Ransomware is bad, but hard drive crashes are worse.


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May 12, 2017 23:26 |  #42

Iancentric wrote in post #18353383 (external link)
Are cloud backups (mostly) safe ?

Only if the backup storage is not directly seen as part of the filesystem.
Also, you don't want to override your backup with files encrypted by ransomware, which may happen with automatic backups.
Make sure you can go back at least one week with backup history.


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May 12, 2017 23:41 |  #43

CheshireCat wrote in post #18353389 (external link)
Only if the backup storage is not directly seen as part of the filesystem.
Also, you don't want to override your backup with files encrypted by ransomware, which may happen with automatic backups.
Make sure you can go back at least one week with backup history.

Well, cloud simply means using someone else's computer.

Now he needs to check on their disaster recovery and backup capabilities. And if and when they test these capabilities.

Just because its cloud means absolutely nothing. Also it should be stored encrypted to protect from prying eyes and security. Oh, and hope your cloud backup service company doesn't go out of business without letting you know first - so you can take proper action.

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May 12, 2017 23:48 |  #44

One thing I have done at home is to remove drive letters mounted to network storage. It is very easy for these types of things to go through all drive letters from A to Z and traverse it. However, it is a bit more difficult to try to traverse UNC paths. It isn't a sure-fire thing, but it can help with some of the viruses/ransomware/spy​bots.


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May 13, 2017 00:27 |  #45

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18353349 (external link)
As one of the first category, I'd argue there is a 3rd,
- those that have lost data and maybe will again. ;)

I do what I can not to be in that 3rd category. But I would not claim to be perfect.

I suspect I fit this category  :p


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