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Sony A9: Is Canon doomed ?

 
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May 17, 2017 15:26 |  #1021

idkdc wrote in post #18356509 (external link)
They have patents for mirrorless, expanded dr, foveon, and global shutter.

Every big company's patent porfolio is 99% BS & copycats, and perhaps 1% real innovation.
That said, and seen how Canon is not doing anything with their "wonderful" patents, here's some funnier fake news:
Canon is leaving the Camera market to focus on patent-trolling.
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May 17, 2017 15:53 |  #1022

CheshireCat wrote in post #18357042 (external link)
Every big company's patent porfolio is 99% BS & copycats, and perhaps 1% real innovation.
That said, and seen how Canon is not doing anything with their "wonderful" patents, here's some funnier fake news:
Canon is leaving the Camera market to focus on patent-trolling.
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I don't know what you're smoking, the C700 already has global shutter.


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May 17, 2017 16:24 |  #1023

dwaisman11 wrote in post #18356980 (external link)
We'll see.
I've switched to Sony over a year ago I and couldn't be happier.
It will be healthy for the market if the big two started competing for once...

Competing in what way? Sony make no cameras that are up to my requirements, though the A9 looks interesting, and they do not make any suitable lenses. Canon and Nikon do - so should Sony think of "competing for once"?

Tried the Sony system, nice, but of VERY limited use and simply useless for 80%+ of my photography.

Sony are looking promising - but they have a very long way to go before they make a useful camera system. If/when they do it I will have a more serious look.


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May 17, 2017 16:43 |  #1024

Just to put things in perspective mirrorless is growing in market share while dslr's are declining. I would say sony is making very good strides in what still is a bad market.


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May 17, 2017 17:25 |  #1025

idkdc wrote in post #18357074 (external link)
I don't know what you're smoking, the C700 already has global shutter.

To me global shutter is where I can sync my flash at any speed. Video stuff I don't care. That global shutter is still not out from my understanding.


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May 17, 2017 18:21 |  #1026

bobbyz wrote in post #18357149 (external link)
To me global shutter is where I can sync my flash at any speed. Video stuff I don't care. That global shutter is still not out from my understanding.

It doesn't change the fact that they already have the technology, so patents aren't sic "BS."

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May 17, 2017 19:20 |  #1027

bobbyz wrote in post #18357149 (external link)
To me global shutter is where I can sync my flash at any speed. Video stuff I don't care. That global shutter is still not out from my understanding.

They do indeed have a true global shutter in the C700 although it's not the version that is supposed to eliminate/reduce the dynamic range penalty traditionally associated with global shutter sensors.


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May 17, 2017 21:15 |  #1028

So why no one puts that global shutter in photography camera for strobe shooters. If I can sync flash at 1/8000 without HSS I don't need 1200ws or more power strobe when shooting outside in the sun. I must be missing something. I don't think current global shutter allow one to do this.


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May 17, 2017 21:18 |  #1029

bobbyz wrote in post #18357277 (external link)
So why no one puts that global shutter in photography camera for strobe shooters. If I can sync flash at 1/8000 without HSS I don't need 1200ws or more power strobe when shooting outside in the sun. I must be missing something. I don't think current global shutter allow one to do this.

Because it's expensive tech, so they'll roll it out to cinema cameras with higher margins first. You're not their only customer.


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May 17, 2017 22:55 |  #1030

bobbyz wrote in post #18357277 (external link)
So why no one puts that global shutter in photography camera for strobe shooters. If I can sync flash at 1/8000 without HSS I don't need 1200ws or more power strobe when shooting outside in the sun. I must be missing something. I don't think current global shutter allow one to do this.

Also global shutter sensors also have suffered from a lower dynamic range which is why the C700 is available with or without it. Cmos w/ global shutter is a new tech. Once it matures it'll end up in the SLR business and mirrorless too.

Look at 4K... once a cinema only deal now everything has it.


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May 17, 2017 23:28 |  #1031

idkdc wrote in post #18357074 (external link)
I don't know what you're smoking, the C700 already has global shutter.

So do many other cameras from different competitors.
That means that Canon's patent on "global shutter something" is BS.


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May 18, 2017 00:25 |  #1032

CheshireCat wrote in post #18357344 (external link)
So do many other cameras from different competitors.
That means that Canon's patent on "global shutter something" is BS.

Your logic doesn't really make any sense. It's the specific implementation of global shutter that Canon holds patents for, not the basic concept.


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May 18, 2017 02:06 |  #1033

raptor3x wrote in post #18357364 (external link)
Your logic doesn't really make any sense. It's the specific implementation of global shutter that Canon holds patents for, not the basic concept.

You are right, Raptor.....that is how patents work. Companies don't just get some kind of overall patent on a technology. Rather, they get very specific patents about each and every potential use / implementation of that technology.

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May 18, 2017 09:41 |  #1034

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18357404 (external link)
You are right, Raptor.....that is how patents work.

Yeah, right, like this one:
http://www.cbsnews.com …-highlight-button-update/ (external link)

Also read this for extra fun/sadness:
http://www.freepatents​online.com/crazy.html (external link)

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May 18, 2017 10:03 |  #1035

bobbyz wrote in post #18357277 (external link)
So why no one puts that global shutter in photography camera for strobe shooters. If I can sync flash at 1/8000 without HSS I don't need 1200ws or more power strobe when shooting outside in the sun. I must be missing something. I don't think current global shutter allow one to do this.

And we know the A9 has to shoot flash at 1/250 to sync


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