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May 21, 2017 22:07 |  #46

You need to get a better grasp of light quality. Mixing types of lighting, flash, CFL, and whatever you have in the ceiling will cause problems. Each of those has its own color, and you can't correct the white balance in post and correcting one just makes the other sources worse. Get yourself at least two, and better yet 3 flashes. Look on you tube and focus on the following terms, key light, fill light, and background light (sometimes called a separation light).




  
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May 21, 2017 22:55 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #47

Thanks I have two flashes. I turned the ceiling light up because the camera would not focus. I tried everything I could think of.


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May 21, 2017 23:00 |  #48

Nicole2320 wrote in post #18360137 (external link)
Thanks I have two flashes. I turned the ceiling light up because the camera would not focus. I tried everything I could think of.

Whether the light from the overhead will be a factor in the final image depends on your ISO and shutter speed. If your ISO is low and your shutter speed is fast enough the ambient light won't show.




  
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May 21, 2017 23:55 |  #49

gonzogolf wrote in post #18360139 (external link)
Whether the light from the overhead will be a factor in the final image depends on your ISO and shutter speed. If your ISO is low and your shutter speed is fast enough the ambient light won't show.

Notice her aperture too, f/11. Couple of overhead light bulbs aren't going to matter, but good to see you around, gonzo.


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May 21, 2017 23:57 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #50

Thanks I am going to use the practice shots that Strobist recommends to learn lighting. Thanks for the link left handed


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May 22, 2017 00:03 |  #51

I'm fairly confident the ceiling light had no significant impact on the image. (Look at the top of the hair on the first image).

The problem you are having is that your effective main light source is too small. This is generally challenging (not necessarily "bad" but certainly requires more of you) and you have a hot spot hitting the skin. This is even more challenging with darker skin, because a specular highlight creates more contrast on darker skin.

Solution:

1. Angle the light so it is pointing IN FRONT OF your subjects, not AT them. This is called feathering. You want only the light from the side of the umbrella to strike the face. The harsh light from the center is less helpful. By itself, this is probably the biggest step.

2. Check the distance of the strobe from the umbrella. You want light to hit more evenly across the whole surface of the umbrella, not just in the center, which makes the center hotspot even hotter. You can also try adjusting the zoom of the speedlight wider, if this is an option.

3. Add diffusion. Have something which will spread the light more between your strobe and the umbrella (creating more even light) or between the umbrella and the subject (creating a larger effective light).

4. Bounce the light off of something big and white (a white wall or ceiling, a giant piece of foam core or cardboard painted white, etc).


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May 24, 2017 22:11 |  #52

Thanks for the advice. Tonight I practiced in complete darkness based on the strobist examples. I couldn't get it to autofocus, so I used manual focus. I starting to understand slowly how lighting works.


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May 25, 2017 12:53 |  #53

You are on your way!

If you have your camera set for the flash picture, you can snap a shot with the flash turned off at the same settings and see how much (if at all) the room lights will show up. In most cases, they will not.

Out in the sun tends to be different. :)


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May 25, 2017 19:02 as a reply to  @ F2Bthere's post |  #54

Thank you for the help


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May 26, 2017 13:04 |  #55

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Nicole - are you intentionally making your images dark? In my opinion (and I'm using a high-end fully calibrated monitor), most of your images in the thread (those that others have not edited) are underexposed by at least a stop or two.


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May 26, 2017 20:58 as a reply to  @ SkipD's post |  #56

No not intentionally. When I look at them, the mom and daughter I thought i figured out the lighting. It looked just like their complexions. The others I see why they are under exposed, but at the time i thought it came out fine.


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Jun 02, 2017 18:52 |  #57

Looking good.

ISO 100 f/8 1/200 and even with a couple of single light bulb lamps in the room, (as long as they are not right next to the subject) and your exposure will be essentially black. Try it for yourself with the flash turned off.


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Jun 02, 2017 21:59 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #58

Thank you. I did, so I have been practicing removing ambient light and slowly adjusting all settings.


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