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May 11, 2017 00:02 |  #46

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Thank you also for all your help. This Saturday I have a project I need to complete (finish building a small HO train table for my grandsons), ages 3 and 5. They will both really enjoy it, but the 3 year old we will have to watch intently so he does not take something off to try and play with it himself.... he likes to sometimes throw toys!

I do want to try taking pictures indoors as well as outdoors. From what I am learning here, I believe I will probably not get the 8-16 but either get the Sigma 10-20 or Canon 10-22


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May 12, 2017 10:06 |  #47

Not necessarily pointing these out as 'the lens' to buy, but merely making you aware of another alternative....

  • Tamron 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 VC,
  • Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8

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May 12, 2017 11:37 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #48

Is there any benefit to the 11-16mm over their 11-20mm?


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May 12, 2017 11:43 |  #49

Wilt wrote in post #18352807 (external link)
Not necessarily pointing these out as 'the lens' to buy, but merely making you aware of another alternative....

  • Tamron 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 VC,
  • Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8


DreDaze wrote in post #18352901 (external link)
Is there any benefit to the 11-16mm over their 11-20mm?

Good question Dre, I did not know Tokina made both sizes so close to each other....

After my weeks use of rented lenses I am hoping to then go to the camera store I mentioned earlier and will talk to them about all the above.


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May 12, 2017 11:47 |  #50

DreDaze wrote in post #18352901 (external link)
Is there any benefit to the 11-16mm over their 11-20mm?

Price. Also the 11-16 also uses the more common 77mm filter thread where as I believe the 11-20 is 82mm so you wouldn't be able to use the same filters as say a 17-55 or 24-105 V1.


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May 12, 2017 11:53 |  #51

DreDaze wrote in post #18352901 (external link)
Is there any benefit to the 11-16mm over their 11-20mm?

From doing some quick searching; it sounds like the only real benefit would be price, since the 11-16 is older. There wasn't a *ton* of stuff out there on the 11-20, but it sounds like the longer ends of the range went soft compared to 16mm, so usability of 17-20 could be suspect. It also sounds like both still exhibit more lens flare than "slower" competitors.


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May 12, 2017 14:29 |  #52

Got my lenses 2 hours ago! I took them outside for comparison "scenery" type shots. I had my camera on a tripod so all the pictures could better be compared to each other.

This was with my current Sigma 17-70 at 17

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This is with the Sigma 10-20 at 20

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Tsxs​vU  (external link) 2 Sigma 10-20 at 20 (external link) by inspeqtor (external link), on Flickr

This is with the Sigma 10-20 at 10

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Tsxs​mW  (external link) 3 Sigma 10-20 at 10 (external link) by inspeqtor (external link), on Flickr

This is with the Sigma 8-16 at 16

IMAGE: https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4175/34231282310_2f0c07a239_o.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/U9Ug​CA  (external link) 4 Sigma 8-16 at 16 (external link) by inspeqtor (external link), on Flickr

This is with the Sigma 8-16 at 8

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/U9Ug​sf  (external link) 5 Sigma 8-16 at 8 (external link) by inspeqtor (external link), on Flickr

I must say as far as scenery goes, I am liking the 8-16.... but now I have to leave for work in a few minutes... DARN!!

I won't have time to do anything else right now.

If the skies stay clear I may try some star shots, which I know will include the big white moon....

What other type shots should I do?

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May 13, 2017 06:01 |  #53

The skies did not stay clear last night. One moment I could see the moon, a few moments later it was behind clouds.

I want to re-show 3 of the pictures above. showing fist the 17MM shot, then the 10MM, then the 8MM

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Now you won't be confused with the 20MM shot or the 16MM in between the others.

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May 13, 2017 06:23 |  #54

One thing I wish it was possible to do, is to see "in camera" what the focal length is set to on any lens.

It is in the exif file, so why can't the camera body see it and tell the user what it is at at any time?


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May 13, 2017 06:44 |  #55

Inspeqtor wrote in post #18353497 (external link)
One thing I wish it was possible to do, is to see "in camera" what the focal length is set to on any lens.

It is in the exif file, so why can't the camera body see it and tell the user what it is at at any time?

Simply look at the lens.


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May 13, 2017 07:10 |  #56

Inspeqtor wrote in post #18353497 (external link)
One thing I wish it was possible to do, is to see "in camera" what the focal length is set to on any lens.

It is in the exif file, so why can't the camera body see it and tell the user what it is at at any time?

Other than for lens tests and FOV comparisons (like you're doing now), when would that be useful? When you're out shooting, you adjust the zoom to frame the scene you're trying to capture in the viewfinder.

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May 14, 2017 01:07 |  #57

SkipD wrote in post #18353511 (external link)
Simply look at the lens.

Yes that will certainly do the job, and quite well at that.


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May 14, 2017 01:10 |  #58

mcoren wrote in post #18353523 (external link)
Other than for lens tests and FOV comparisons (like you're doing now), when would that be useful? When you're out shooting, you adjust the zoom to frame the scene you're trying to capture in the viewfinder.

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yes you are correct, when shooting a scene we all zoom in to fit the image we want in our minds.

I would suspect it may not be too many years that camera manufacturers might consider adding the function of showing the focal length in the view finder.


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May 29, 2017 01:20 |  #59

UPDATE: Saturday I went to a camera store an hour+ drive from me, and ended up getting the Tokina AT-X Pro DX 11-20mm F2.8 lens.

I liked the f/2.8 aperture, plus I liked the AF/MF switch being a push-pull of the focusing ring. I thought that was pretty nifty actually!

It was between that and the Tamron 10-24 f/3.5-4.5 with a 6 year warranty. The Tokina is a 3 year warranty.


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May 29, 2017 02:51 |  #60

Well done Chuck. have fun


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