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May 26, 2017 05:51 |  #1

Hi,

I want to buy a compact camera to complement my DSLR.
I mostly like to shoot portrait, but the compact camera would be used all around also.

I thought in buying the Fuji X100F.

Any suggestions?


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May 26, 2017 15:37 |  #2

codewizpt wrote in post #18363324 (external link)
Hi,

I want to buy a compact camera to complement my DSLR.
I mostly like to shoot portrait, but the compact camera would be used all around also.

I thought in buying the Fuji X100F.

Any suggestions?

The X100 cameras are great, but keep in mind they have a 23mm lens (35mm equivalent) which isn't ideal for most types of portraiture. You can get the TCL-X100 which will make the lens a 33mm f2 (50mm equivalent), but it's pretty large which sort of defeats the purpose in my opinion. I would consider instead the Fuji X-T20 and the XF 35/2, 35/1.4 or 50/2, that kit would be smaller than the X100F with TCL-X100 and give you the option to change lenses if you decide you want to try something different.


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May 27, 2017 06:01 |  #3

How about the Sony a7rII?
Its considerably smaller than the 5D and with a good adapter you could still use all your Canon EF lenses.
So even though the body is more expensive than the Fuji the money you save on the lenses would still make it a way cheaper option not mention its also known for its wide DR which makes it ideal for environmental portraits


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May 27, 2017 06:38 |  #4

Heya,

If you want it to compliment what you already have, get a Sony and adapter as mentioned already.

Fuji is otherwise a great way to go for middle of the road, but the glass is expensive, you can get the 56mm F1.2 lens and one of the nice wide fast lenses or a zoom maybe?

Or you can start preparing your wallet for a Leica...

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May 28, 2017 12:38 |  #5

If you want to get a taste of Fuji the X-T20 is a killer start like the suggestion Everydaygetaway mentioned.

24MP sensor but only concern is if your shooting wideopen you may hit the 1/4000 max shutter speed. Otherwise for the Fuji world the 35mm f/1.4, 56 f/1.2 or 90 f/2 should be considered. I'd say there would be less fuji shooters using a 16-55 or 50-140 f/2.8 for dedicated portrait work due to bokeh quality over Fuji zoom lenses.

If your still shooting with a Canon crop sensor Rebel XS (1000d) the Fuji system would be a massive jump from your Canon gear.

Be prepared to fall in love with the Fuji files. I will say that you'll find the fuji will not have crispy sharp files like the latest Canon crop sensor or Canon full frames. Seems fuji has this film like look in their RAW files probably due to pixel density on a crop sensor. I just documented an indian house warming ceremony and in available light my Canon 80D with 35 f/2IS and 24-70Lmk2 (no flash) produced sharper/crispier files than my Fuji X-T2 with 16mm f/1.4 and 10-24mm f/4 at iso 3200. However at the end of the day if your printing you would not be able to easily tell the difference. However with pixel peeping it seemed my Canon 80d and older Canon 5dmk2 was cleaner at iso 3200 (eyelash details etc) . You must test your gear in all kinds of environments an analyse your RAW files.

For portrait work I think Fuji is very flattering on human subjects. In most cases I find Fuji to be much more easier to produce eye candy than my Canon gear SOOC.

I think you should test before you buy. I use my Fuji gear alot!!! I still can't let go of my Canon files or Fuji is simply amazing too. I just use different tools for different applications.


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May 28, 2017 13:00 |  #6

FuturamaJSP wrote in post #18364044 (external link)
How about the Sony a7rII?
Its considerably smaller than the 5D and with a good adapter you could still use all your Canon EF lenses.

It's not much smaller once you add adapter and lenses. If you're looking for a camera that's smaller and lighter then a DSLR, then you have to find the appropriate system. m4/3rds is certainly a popular smaller format, that I think is a good approach for a portable system. The only thing you're losing is some high ISO performance. Not an issue with portrait photography that has controlled lighting. I've often thought about getting a Fuji for a travel system...they're also supposed to have good color profiles.


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May 29, 2017 06:12 as a reply to  @ davesrose's post |  #7

I am aware of that but with a good adapter the OP wouldn't need to buy new lenses and carry around twice as many lenses


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May 29, 2017 08:03 |  #8

Still wouldnt be "compact " as the OP is searching for

In my opinion , m4/3 is the way to go for something , small good for general use and can pull off portraits very well..
Panasonic g85 or gx8 .. with a 25 f1.7 or 42.5 f1.7 for portraits and a zoom such as 14-140 for walkaround use would be very easy to carry in weight and size
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May 29, 2017 10:12 |  #9

rantercsr wrote in post #18365564 (external link)
Still wouldnt be "compact " as the OP is searching for

In my opinion , m4/3 is the way to go for something , small good for general use and can pull off portraits very well..
Panasonic g85 or gx8 .. with a 25 f1.7 or 42.5 f1.7 for portraits and a zoom such as 14-140 for walkaround use would be very easy to carry in weight and size
And stil produce high quality pictures

I use to use the m43 system as a secondary system.

The Fuji X-T20 and image stabilized 18-55 f/2.8-4.0 amazing kit lens would easily outperform any latest M43 with Oly 12-40 f/2.8 or panny 12-35 f/2.8 in many situations. Fuji's and Sony's crop sensor is superior to the M43 system in resolution and iso performance. Price wise the GH5 and Em1mk2 is outrageously expensive for the $$ / IQ ratio.

I still feel Fuji has one of the best well rounded lens selection for a compact system. However compact and heavier the Sony A7 series will provide higher IQ and performance. However another factor is if you like Fuji files or Sony "looking" files.

Even the Sony A6500 w/ 55 batis prime would be an incredible portrait camera compared to all of the M43 systems.

I dropped the M43 line when they started to charging large for their latest flagships that produce marginally better IQ than the old E-m1 and other 16mp sensor bodies.


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May 29, 2017 10:23 |  #10

The x100 series is great but unless you shoot most of your portraits fairly wide (which can be fun) it's not going to be great a portraits.


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May 29, 2017 10:25 as a reply to  @ AlanU's post |  #11

I definitely was not implying that m4/3 was equal or better in resolution to fuji or sony apsc..
And i wouldnt suggest the gh5 or any of the latest and greatest m4/3lenses

Im just thinking about what the OP is asking for ..seems like m43 could be a good fit..

Vs fuji or sony..
Im very happy with my a7sii and a6500.. smaller and lighter than my previously owned 5d3 and 24-70 2.8 combo

Cant recommend what i havent experience..
Sony A6××× line could be good , some fujis also

But if we really want to talk compact while stil havint interchangeable lens option i think m43 is a good contender , there are plenty of smaller ones under 1000 dollars


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May 29, 2017 10:31 |  #12

rantercsr wrote in post #18365668 (external link)
I definitely was not implying that m4/3 was equal or better in resolution to fuji or sony apsc..
And i wouldnt suggest the gh5 or any of the latest and greatest m4/3lenses

Im just thinking about what the OP is asking for ..seems like m43 could be a good fit..

Vs fuji or sony..
Im very happy with my a7sii and a6500.. smaller and lighter than my previously owned 5d3 and 24-70 2.8 combo

Cant recommend what i havent experience..
Sony A6××× line could be good , some fujis also

But if we really want to talk compact while stil havint interchangeable lens option i think m43 is a good contender , there are plenty of smaller ones under 1000 dollars


If you push your limits of the sensor in the M43 you may feel like throwing it against a wall.........I definitely got frustrated when the RAW files fall apart so easily even in semi challenging light.

Your Sony bodies outperforms all M43 by massive margins! While you get rich lush Raw files from your Sony bodies the M43 even with the latest m43 cannot keep up when the light gets challenging. That's not fun when you spend $$$$ for a m43 system...... However in good light the sensor does reasonably well.


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May 29, 2017 11:28 as a reply to  @ AlanU's post |  #13

Ive owned m43 .. and i was happy with it as a secondary , not as my only.. for all the reasons you mentioned plus very poor lighting support for proper portraits that was the main reason i sold off.

In any case , the way im seing it is.. op is happy with dslr and its quality , so the secondary is just that a secondary ... compact is priority i assume as thats what was mentioned

When he want better quality hes got the dslr hes happy with?

Anyway that my logic:-)
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May 29, 2017 11:45 |  #14

I suggest you give readers a bit more about characteristics you want/need, or you risk a bunch of valueless shots in the dark...kinda like "what small car should It buy?"


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Jun 08, 2017 08:10 |  #15

rantercsr wrote in post #18365564 (external link)
Still wouldnt be "compact " as the OP is searching for

This is what OP said:
I want to buy a compact camera to complement my DSLR.


so yeah, a compact camera not a compact system.
he also used the word complement which makes me assume that he would carry both cameras with him along with lenses


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