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Jun 02, 2017 12:21 |  #33736

Here's the big picture of the reception area. What do you guys think is wrong in this picture?


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Jun 02, 2017 12:27 |  #33737

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feet are cut off

either need to back up a bit more or wider lens.

that higher perspective, I'm unsure of as well, doesnt seem high enough? and eye level may have been better.


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Jun 02, 2017 12:50 |  #33738

vinmunoz wrote in post #18369224 (external link)
Here's the big picture of the reception area. What do you guys think is wrong in this picture?

Yep, cut off feet... Tilt down, the ceiling is too prominent.


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Jun 02, 2017 12:58 |  #33739

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no one in the crowd is watching them on their first dance?


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Jun 02, 2017 13:06 |  #33740

wallstreetoneil YOU ARE CORRECT!!! lol

agree with feet cut off though.


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Jun 02, 2017 13:13 |  #33741

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wallstreetoneil YOU ARE CORRECT!!! lol

agree with feet cut off though.

Very poor MC. Should have made sure that everyone was aware of a key moment. Not a photographer's error for sure!

I guess the photography solution, though, would have been to open up the aperture and frame more tightly (with feet in shot!) ... just cut the guests right out of it.


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Jun 02, 2017 13:25 |  #33742

It's really a disorganized wedding in the first place.

There was no MC. so the DJ ran the show and I can't blame him.

I have other shots too. tight and with feet.

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Jun 02, 2017 13:31 |  #33743

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It's really a disorganized wedding in the first place.

I have other shots too. tight and with feet.

thank you.

Well, I guess you just have to photograph the event as it is. It must be quite a challenge if the overall organization isn't there. The initial shot you posted of the first dance was terrific imho ... one really good shot that the couple will treasure.


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Jun 02, 2017 13:32 |  #33744

vinmunoz wrote in post #18369276 (external link)
It's really a disorganized wedding in the first place.

There was no MC. so the DJ ran the show and I can't blame him.

I have other shots too. tight and with feet.

thank you.

seating arrangement looks bad. If the guests were surrounding B+G, that would have automatically made the photo better. Some folks were looking, but due to arrangement in seats, there's a disconnect since I think the couple is physically too far away from the crowd.


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Jun 02, 2017 13:42 |  #33745

vinmunoz wrote in post #18369276 (external link)
It's really a disorganized wedding in the first place.

There was no MC. so the DJ ran the show and I can't blame him.

I have other shots too. tight and with feet.

thank you.

Tough job for the DJ ... stuck off to the side somewhere with no real physical presence. Whether it's a professional or a friend with 'attitude', I think every reception needs an MC.


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Jun 02, 2017 14:04 |  #33746

I don't know if this is me just looking for an excuse for my mistakes..

but , could a better full frame have given me better results even at the same ISO?
8000 iso with a 12mp FF , or iso 8000 with twenty something mp with an apsc were my options..for this particular picture

I think in the end most pics will be usable .. especially as most will be viewed on a phone or tablet , but I still cant help wanting better

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Jun 02, 2017 15:18 |  #33747

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I don't know if this is me just looking for an excuse for my mistakes..

but , could a better full frame have given me better results even at the same ISO?
8000 iso with a 12mp FF , or iso 8000 with twenty something mp with an apsc were my options..for this particular picture

I think in the end most pics will be usable .. especially as most will be viewed on a phone or tablet , but I still cant help wanting better

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Higher resolution does result in finer details. But from what I can see the files look good.


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Jun 02, 2017 15:58 |  #33748

rantercsr wrote in post #18369309 (external link)
I don't know if this is me just looking for an excuse for my mistakes..

but , could a better full frame have given me better results even at the same ISO?
8000 iso with a 12mp FF , or iso 8000 with twenty something mp with an apsc were my options..for this particular picture

I think in the end most pics will be usable .. especially as most will be viewed on a phone or tablet , but I still cant help wanting better

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I looked at the set of images on Flickr.

My main comment is that given you were shooting mostly at 35mm, and it looks like at about 10ft, you really did not need F5.6 for Dof - F2.8 would have been enough - that would have brought you to ISO2000. You EXIF dat shows that flash was firing but in many cases it doesn't look like it did.

And you are not going to beat an A7Sii from an ISO point of view - your biggest issue was using F5.6 in my opinion.


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Jun 02, 2017 16:38 |  #33749

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Not surprised.

Me neither. He has a special way to express his thoughts


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Jun 02, 2017 16:41 as a reply to  @ wallstreetoneil's post |  #33750

Thanks for your input..
my choice in lens was 16-35 f4 or 55 1.8

face detect and eye focus were not being very reliable.. it would pop up one minute then disappear the next and go OOF ..
and so that's why I kept 5.6 and higher at one point, so that I would have more in focus .. that was my logic maybe not the best one..

I know that both my a7sii and a6500 can produce excellent quality photos with lots of details..
The problem I seem to run into , and again -- User not camera.. when ever I have these high pressure type shoots be it events or portraits or whatever , everything seems to go wrong..
I cant seem to change AF quick enough ,
i find that if i use zone or wide face or eye detect work better.. i think..
but then sometimes i cant get what i want in focus

if i use spot , face and eye detect will detect but then switches to spot..

for this kind of high pressure (for me ) shooting , i miss my canon 5d3, for myself i felt it was easier to work with under pressure(i have pics of events from when i had it ,, and what a difference in quality .. again not cameras fault , but my current inability to use them quickly )

when i'm working at my own pace , and i have time to think about things , i can get the sony's to produce very good quality ..

I've been very disappointed in my pics of family events / affairs since i switched..
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