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Jun 04, 2017 14:12 |  #3766

I've now proven without a doubt that if "Auto power off" is disabled and you put your 1DX2 away with the power switch on, you will discharge your battery! ;-)a

I normally do turn the power switch off, but sometimes I forget. Yesterday when I got the 1DX2 out of the bag, the power switch was on and the battery was dead. I think that when I sent the body to Canon for sensor cleaning a couple of months ago, they disabled auto power off and I didn't notice. They had changed at least one other setting (JPG rather than RAW). Next time I'll be sure to save the settings before sending it in and restore the settings when I get it back.


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Jun 04, 2017 16:14 |  #3767

David Stallard wrote in post #18370593 (external link)
And she looks such a nice girl ;-)a (sorry couldn't resist)

#1 & 3 would be my pick of the bunch

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David, I do 'get' your joke. I kinda walked into that one.
Oh no! I created another pun?
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I agree with you that #1 and #3 are probably the strongest ones.
I like the heat mirage in #3.
To be honest, we were just "killing time" waiting for train to come and as such, they are simple images.
I do like them though.

Here is my spouse again:

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Jun 04, 2017 16:24 |  #3768

Significant crops as well

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Jun 05, 2017 03:03 |  #3769

Perhaps good for you that it is a significant crop.
Or it would be your bare hands against his bear hands. If you ever held a shiny brass lamp, you know what I mean.


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Jun 05, 2017 03:09 |  #3770

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Interesting that the data says you used the EF 24 mm f/1.4L II USM set at 85 mm.


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Jun 05, 2017 07:32 |  #3771

Hello.

I'm about to buy a 1dx mk2 and I have a question.
What max ISO do owners feel comfortable with?

I'm taking a trip to the Mach Loop next week and really don't want to go home with a couple of thousand newspaper print quality images.

I understand settings will vary depending on circumstance but I can't believe 490k could be considered useable.

I started reading all the comments on this thread to find an answer but there are so many pages I gave up.

My thanks in advance.


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Jun 05, 2017 08:29 |  #3772

fordmondeo wrote in post #18371348 (external link)
I'm about to buy a 1dx mk2 and I have a question.
What max ISO do owners feel comfortable with?

I haven't shot above 25600. I'm satisfied with the photo below, but Scooter's fur is softened just a bit due to the noise reduction. In Lightroom, I was at 6 for color noise reduction, 56 for luminance, 36 for sharpening, and 70 for masking. I think it's better than newspaper quality, but it's not studio quality.

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Jun 05, 2017 10:16 as a reply to  @ LJ3Jim's post |  #3773

I have to say that is quite impressive.

It appears better than my 6D and in a different league to my 7Dii although I don't have scooter to do direct comparisons.;-)a
Do you prefer lightroom for raw processing over canon dpp?


Thank you.


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Jun 05, 2017 10:57 as a reply to  @ fordmondeo's post |  #3774

Personally I haven't needed to go above 6400, however I know people that are at 8000 and above.. it's down to your own personal preferences I'd say.

One thing I do know is that, you won't need to worry about the loop, you don't shoot high iso's, especially if props come through like c130's or the a400..

Maybe read Andy Rouses review and see if that ties in with your shooting style and subjects.


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Jun 05, 2017 11:06 |  #3775

fordmondeo wrote in post #18371437 (external link)
I have to say that is quite impressive.

It appears better than my 6D and in a different league to my 7Dii although I don't have scooter to do direct comparisons.;-)a
Do you prefer lightroom for raw processing over canon dpp?


Thank you.

I upgraded last summer from a 7Dii to the 1DX2, and the difference is dramatic.

I do use DPP's Quick Check to thin down the photos. Quick Check is much faster than doing it in Lightroom. I do prefer Lightroom for processing. After using LR for a while, my workflow is faster than what I can do with DPP. LR is more powerful with shadows and highlights. Exporting (batch process) is easier because I can define a box like 1920x1080 and all the exported photos will fit in that box regardless of their crop. There are other features that are helpful; but, in the end, I don't think the LR photos are necessarily any better than the DPP ones.


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Jun 05, 2017 12:03 |  #3776

Most I have gone to at the moment (first outing with the camera) in a dark pits garage - jpeg straight off the card iso 8000

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More than good enough for what I need. - sorry it's not a more exciting shot, just kept it for iso ref

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Jun 05, 2017 12:11 |  #3777

tell a lie, just found this one in the recycle bin from the very first day I got the body, very quick grab shot indoors at 12800 - had to resize it down a little to get it too direct load here.

If this was edited as a jpeg or even better shot in raw I would have no doubt you could quite easily have a printable image - obviously not this one because it's rubbish lol.


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Hope that helps a little

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Jun 05, 2017 13:10 |  #3778

All of of these were jpegs, straight out of the camera, set to "Standard Picture Style" and "Standard" High ISO Noise Reduction.
(I shoot both RAW and jpegs at the same time)

The first image was taken at night where I forgot to change the settings from earlier in the evening, and it is at ISO 25,600
The 2nd image was at ISO 20000
The third image was at ISO 6400
The bottom one could have benefited from a higher ISO, but I had it limited in the camera to ISO 25600

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I am very happy with the high ISO performance of this camera.

Answering your question, I usually set a minimum shutter speed that I can get by with when hand-holding, and let the ISO adjust itself to that, but limiting it to ISO 25600.
I attended a seminar once where the instructor stated that it is easier to fix digital noise than fix motion blur (and camera shake), and I suppose he was correct.

I hope that this helps.

(There is a bit more info on Flickr about the images, and there is one to the right of all but the veteran with the flag, that had noise reduction applied in LR5)



  
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Jun 05, 2017 13:34 |  #3779

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Jun 05, 2017 16:35 |  #3780

fordmondeo wrote in post #18371348 (external link)
Hello.

I'm about to buy a 1dx mk2 and I have a question.
What max ISO do owners feel comfortable with?

I'm taking a trip to the Mach Loop next week and really don't want to go home with a couple of thousand newspaper print quality images.

I understand settings will vary depending on circumstance but I can't believe 490k could be considered useable.

I started reading all the comments on this thread to find an answer but there are so many pages I gave up.

My thanks in advance.

Here are two 51,600 ISO 1DXii images
- the first one is a rubbery looking in-camera jpeg with medium NR and the 2nd is a RAW file that I spent 3 minutes on (notice the detail difference)
- i mention this fact because if you are willing to spend the time with an individual raw file, and NOT turn the jpeg file to mush by throwing FULL automatic jpeg NR at it, you can absolutely do one full stop better than Canon's jpeg engine


My personal answer in terms of acceptable ISO is:
- lower is always better but no one paying your bill will ever notice the difference ISO 100 and 400
- Experts notice the difference between 400 and 800
- knowledgeable pixel peepers will pick up the differences between 800 vs 3200 everytime but with good NR, your mother won't have any idea
- given the rule of doublings, or halvings of light, 3200 iso, no matter the sensor or the jpeg / post processing magic, is the last ISO where the color is sort of holding it together - but if you asked a Commercial Photog doing $50k work for a magazine they would puke at the suggestion that 3200 iso is useable - but your mother will never say that a 3200 ISO image isn't excellent

My auto ISO answer is 25,600 for most things but 51,200 if you are willing to spend the time in PP. If you really want to know my real answer, I never like to go above 3200 ISO because the colour is never the same.


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51,200 RAW with PP NR

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