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Jun 14, 2017 01:35 |  #226

^ or maybe wait a little for Sigmas 35mm f/1.4 for Sony e-mount :)


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Jun 14, 2017 01:38 |  #227

uljens wrote in post #18378027 (external link)
^ or maybe wait a little for Sigmas 35mm f/1.4 for Sony e-mount :)

I'm afraid of sigma, they've been trending gigantic lenses.....

If they continue that strategy with Sony, it would be a tough sell.


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Jun 14, 2017 01:48 |  #228

uljens wrote in post #18378027 (external link)
^ or maybe wait a little for Sigmas 35mm f/1.4 for Sony e-mount :)

Definitely have been thinking about that. It's a great thought.

The main advantage of the Canon-mount is I can get a used one for pretty cheap here on POTN or on FM. The new one for Sony will likely have a higher price and have a smaller resale market, which will take a long time get established. In other words, I don't think I can wait for many months to find a used e-mount Sigma 35mm.

Worst case scenario is I buy the Canon-mount, but resell it later to get the e-mount version...the Canon-mount will sell easily and won't be a huge lo$$.


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Jun 14, 2017 04:10 |  #229

David Arbogast wrote in post #18378030 (external link)
Definitely have been thinking about that. It's a great thought.

The main advantage of the Canon-mount is I can get a used one for pretty cheap here on POTN or on FM. The new one for Sony will likely have a higher price and have a smaller resale market, which will take a long time get established. In other words, I don't think I can wait for many months to find a used e-mount Sigma 35mm.

Worst case scenario is I buy the Canon-mount, but resell it later to get the e-mount version...the Canon-mount will sell easily and won't be a huge lo$$.

I have been considering this approach too after my sony 35 1.4 purchase fell through and the sigma was announced but my main issue is that the canon mount sigma 35 art is £550 and an mc-11 is £200 so I'd be £750 in for a lens that will have low light focussing issues Vs a new zony 35 1.4 for £1050. I feel like I would rather put the extra £300 to remove that hassle. However if i already had an adaptor it would not be such an issue. I think I'll end up holding out to see what sigma bring out then decide between that and the zony. I'm also fighting the urge to buy the x100t for the 3rd time or buying an x100f


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Jun 14, 2017 04:14 |  #230

So a99ii shots are ok here?

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Jun 14, 2017 04:22 |  #231

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So a99ii shots are ok here?

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Jun 14, 2017 04:55 |  #232

The reunion thread :)


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Jun 14, 2017 05:20 |  #233

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Thank you for the feedback. Looks great to me from the samples you have shared. I had the original Canon 35L f1.4 and loved it. I sold it and have been missing a 35mm for the reasons you mentioned.

I captured this with the FE55. I think 35mm would have brought in more of the farm to help tell a story. Btw, I'm still not sure about the skin tones here. This was shot about 6 PM so it's not harsh light I would say. The original had too much orange tones.

I'm not sure where it would be in LR but in Photoshop, if you open the raw image in ACR, try changing the camera profile from "Adobe Standard" to "Camera Standard". To my eye, that helps improve skin tones. Not always, but in many cases. Sometimes I'll open a raw file with Sony's Data Converter which seems to preserve the jpg profile by default. From the converter, I'll open it directly into Photoshop as a 16 bit tif.

Sometimes, just reducing the vibrance on the skin is enough to greatly improve the tones.


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Jun 14, 2017 05:24 |  #234

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Jun 14, 2017 05:29 |  #235

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I have been considering this approach too after my sony 35 1.4 purchase fell through and the sigma was announced but my main issue is that the canon mount sigma 35 art is £550 and an mc-11 is £200 so I'd be £750 in for a lens that will have low light focussing issues Vs a new zony 35 1.4 for £1050. I feel like I would rather put the extra £300 to remove that hassle. However if i already had an adaptor it would not be such an issue. I think I'll end up holding out to see what sigma bring out then decide between that and the zony. I'm also fighting the urge to buy the x100t for the 3rd time or buying an x100f

It's strange, every time I buy a Fuji I try to make it work, but I could never do it. And I've tried the X-T1/2, X-Pro 2, and x100s/t. Funny enough the Fuji that I enjoyed and shot with the most was their P&S x70 with 28mm f/2.8.


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Jun 14, 2017 06:16 |  #236

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I am critical about what appeals to me regarding bokeh. For example, I dislike the oof rendering from my Batis lenses...it feels a bit swirly and astigmatic (love them regardless!). The Otus 55mm will always be my standard for "perfect bokeh", though I've seen some people be very disparaging of the Otus' bokeh. Such a personal taste thing. All that to say that I actually do not dislike the Sigma's bokeh, though I concede it is no match for the Sony's oof rendering.

Indeed, last night it dawned on me that I may be heading towards buying a Sigma for my needs for three reasons: 1. I have always liked the IQ from the lens (though I have a small issue regarding color), and 2. It's the most affordable high-performing 35mm f/1.4 lens I can think of, and 3. It has the same 67mm filter thread as my Batis 25mm and 85mm, which adds considerably to its overall affordableness.

Downsides are: 1. not native, 2. adapter adds weight making it a heavier choice, not weather sealed.

Sooooo, Nadim or Gene: Get rid of your Sigma 35.........and give me a super nice price for it. Pretty please? :p

David I would have gone for the Sigma if the AF was reliable enough for me. I kept testing Sigma gear because I really wanted it to work out, but I'm not comfortable using it for the things I shoot. I may give the Sigma 135 one more try as its more a posed portrait lens and its really good, but since I'll be using the 35 for more things like wedding receptions, it was a no-go for me.

That said, I think the Sigma 35 will work really well for you.


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Jun 14, 2017 06:20 |  #237

uljens wrote in post #18378027 (external link)
^ or maybe wait a little for Sigmas 35mm f/1.4 for Sony e-mount :)

Yep that too. SAR says it might be announced this summer.

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I'm afraid of sigma, they've been trending gigantic lenses.....

If they continue that strategy with Sony, it would be a tough sell.

For the EF stuff, yeah they're trending bigger and more expensive. I think the newer stuff is no questions asked worth it if you're shooting on a Canon body, but in the case of the 135.....$1,400 is sort of a tough sell given that adapting it via the MC-11 still involves compromises vs a true native lens.


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Jun 14, 2017 06:31 |  #238

Haha! Thanks everyone! I never left Sony, in fact looking (on the verge of the a9)...even dusted off the a7Rii :)

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Jun 14, 2017 06:49 |  #239

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Jun 14, 2017 08:04 |  #240

So here I am with the a9 sitting in front of me, but 0 glass, haha. I didn't think it would get to me so fast.

The last few days I've been weighing my opinions and trying to decide on lenses. I'm 95% going to be ordering the 24-70GM today.

I've been thinking of the 35mm f/2.8 as well as the 55mm f/1.8. Only had the 35 way back when I had the original a7. Obviously 2.8 isn't the best, but with better sensors today maybe the higher ISO won't be a big deal. Had the 55mm f/1.8 when I was using my a7rII and enjoyed it, but wasn't completely blown away with it. It simply got the job done.

Then I'm thinking for a minute and there's been a lot of good glass released since I last shot the a7 series. Got me to thinking. If I didn't completely love the 55, might not be worth it. The news of Sigma possibly making a FE 35mm f/1.4 especially if it supports the full range of AF speed and benefits might be worth waiting for. Seeing that I have a few portrait/engagement shoots lined up with another one possibly coming up in early July, got me thinking of the 85mm f/1.8 FE. From all reports it seems to be a solid performer, perform nearly as well as the Batis and is a hell of a lot cheaper than the GM.

Then wait a few months to see where the Sigma 35 ends up and if no dice then pick up the smaller 2.8 then. Any thoughts on this line of thinking?

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