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Jun 28, 2017 12:45 |  #1

So I was about to buy a Canon 85 1.8 as a portrait lens, but I saw locally a store selling a tamron 90mm macro and a tokina 100mm macro. Both do not have image stabilization, both are in very good condition. Ideally I would like a Canon 100 non is but it's out of budget for now. I will be using it for portraits, landscape and flower and product shots. Cameras I will be using will be canon 5d, 1dmk3 and a Canon 1N. Which should I go for? They are around the same price, about 220ish.



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Canon.

I had a Tokina macro and it was less than optimal. Even if you ignore the fact that Tamron and Tokina's QA leaves something to be desired (some review site reported 1 in 3 is a dud), the Tokina I had had back focusing issues. Also, and this might be irrelevant to some, but still, the lens extends during focusing, which makes it unsuitable for macro lights that mount on the filter thread (the manual itself says so).

Get the Canon EF 85mm. Throw in a set of Kenko extension tubes and you've got a macro rig way better than those third party lenses.


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Jun 28, 2017 13:54 |  #3

Hmmm didn't think about extension tubes. Would the 100 f2 be better than the 85, given the extra reach?



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That depends on what you're shooting. Makes no difference for static subjects. For skittish insects, even 100mm is sometimes too close for (their) comfort.


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Jun 29, 2017 04:54 |  #5

I don't have the Tokina, but I own the older style Tamron 90mm macro (non VC) and the Canon 85 1.8. They're two completely different animals as far as I'm concerned. The Tamron focuses really slow compared to the blazing fast USM in the Canon, but that's fine since I mainly use manual focus for macro shots anyway. The Canon is awesome for shooting indoor sports and portraits since it's AF is super fast and accurate. The Tamron is probably sharper, but as I said before I wouldn't trust it to keep up with moving subjects. Newer Tamron VC's have updated motors and don't extend when focusing, but the old style micromotor in mine is pretty slow and noisy compared to the silent USM of the Canon. The Tamron also extends a LOT while focusing, while the 85mm doesn't extend at all when focusing. The 85 1.8 has quite a bit of CA, but that's usually fairly easy to correct in software.

Can you shoot portraits with the Tamron? Certainly, and I did before I bought the Canon... but when choosing between the two, I much prefer shooting portraits with the 85 1.8 for it's snappy AF.

I'd suggest the Tamron if you're shooting only macro, and the Canon if you're going to be shooting a variety of subjects. The tubes are a good idea. I've got a set but have never used them with the 85, I'll have to give that a shot one of these days and compare.


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Jun 29, 2017 09:49 |  #6

Well as luck would have it, I won a Canon 100mm macro USM! Seems like it would be a good alternative a rounder lens. Got it for about the same price as the lenses I was considering.



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Jun 29, 2017 10:11 |  #7

Ranie Dib wrote in post #18389732 (external link)
Well as luck would have it, I won a Canon 100mm macro USM! Seems like it would be a good alternative a rounder lens. Got it for about the same price as the lenses I was considering.

Won as in a contest? If so congrats. :) Nothing wrong with it, that's what I've been using for my close-up/macros. For skittish insects it requires you to be too close, so not ideal for those. I have used my Sigs 70-200 f2.8 and 150-600 for close-ups too.


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Jun 29, 2017 10:39 |  #8

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Won as in a contest? If so congrats. :) Nothing wrong with it, that's what I've been using for my close-up/macros. For skittish insects it requires you to be too close, so not ideal for those. I have used my Sigs 70-200 f2.8 and 150-600 for close-ups too.

Sounds more like an online auction.

I've got the Tokina 100mm macro and am very happy with it, especially on my ProMaster extension tubes.

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Jun 29, 2017 13:35 |  #9

Yup got it on ebay, I think $270 is a good price. Can't wait to use it. I was going to go for the tokina if that did not got thru.



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Jun 29, 2017 14:14 |  #10

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Yup got it on ebay, I think $270 is a good price. Can't wait to use it. I was going to go for the tokina if that did not got thru.

Sounds like a decent price if the condition is ok. Personally, I"ll only buy used lenses from somebody like B&H or Adorama.

Were I to buy new again, I'd definitely go with the Tokina.




  
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Jul 01, 2017 22:42 |  #11

Got the lens, its very clean and focuses really well. Love using it with the 1d3 I just got. Just a quick question. Whats a good hood for this? I saw the actual hood made by canon and that thing is so long. Anything shorter you guys can recommend?



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Jul 02, 2017 17:49 |  #12

You could always get one of the collapsible ones that screws into the filter threads. It would be shorter, but I'm not sure how well it'd work. I'm pretty sure Canon made it that size for a reason (the hood for my Tamron macro is pretty large too).


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