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Jun 29, 2017 19:45 |  #151

mwsilver wrote in post #18390275 (external link)
You're a man of few words.

few words for that man.. smart!


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Jun 29, 2017 19:47 |  #152

mwsilver wrote in post #18390275 (external link)
You're a man of few words.

Speak softly and carry a big stick.


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Jun 29, 2017 19:49 |  #153

rantercsr wrote in post #18389585 (external link)
So over the 80d , it has the bigger sensor, internal image stabilization, and 4k movie timelapse ..
And the time lapse thing is more of a extra than a major feature in my opinion.. and im someone whos been gettingmore into time lapse .
I assume with IS feature some sort of crop wouls happen ?

As expected no 4k.

Is it just me or does it seem a bit overpriced?
I mean for someone who was shooting the original 6d all this time its a nice upgrade.. but in the whole picture , it does seem just a bit overpriced to me ..

I might preorder :lol:

Completely agree.


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Jun 29, 2017 20:01 |  #154

mwsilver wrote in post #18390275 (external link)
You're a man of few words.

Look up the thread a few posts (well actually a few dozen, probably, given the volume of activity here) and you'll find a fuller explanation of why I really have no time whatsoever for your kind of post.

I'm off back to sleep now.


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Jun 29, 2017 20:07 |  #155

DreDaze wrote in post #18390277 (external link)
I like that it has a flip out screen...gives me hope that the next 7D would have one too...that's probably my next camera

It looks similar to the 60D/70D/80D LCD. Not the most robust design.


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Jun 29, 2017 20:09 |  #156

mwsilver wrote in post #18390289 (external link)
It looks similar to the 60D/70D/80D LCD. Not the most robust design.

Of all the years of flip out screens ive never seen a busted one...


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Jun 29, 2017 20:18 |  #157

DaviSto wrote in post #18390286 (external link)
Look up the thread a few posts (well actually a few dozen, probably, given the volume of activity here) and you'll find a fuller explanation of why I really have no time whatsoever for your kind of post.

I'm off back to sleep now.

Thank you for clarifying that your response was intended as a personal rebuke. I actually read every post in this thread, including all of yours. But, I'll do my best to avoid boring you in the future. Of course you could be a bit more polite and just ignore posts you believe don't come up to your standards.


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Jun 29, 2017 20:19 |  #158

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18390181 (external link)
$2099 was the launch price of the first 6d.

It didn't stay there long. I got mine that year for Christmas... at Best Buy... for $1499.




  
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Jun 29, 2017 20:23 |  #159

DreDaze wrote in post #18390290 (external link)
Of all the years of flip out screens ive never seen a busted one...

Had an a620 a decade ago. Flippy screen was rock solid. The 6D2 is descended from greatness, at least when it comes to articulating displays.

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Jun 29, 2017 20:26 |  #160

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Specs and build are not that impressive. It looks like an 80D with a full frame sensor for $850 more. It still only has a 1/4000 max shutter speed. Considering it's limited feature set, consumer level build and controls, and high price, that new FF sensor better be pretty fantastic. Put it side to side with the crop sensor Nikon D500 at the same price and the 6D II looks like a overpriced joke. For an outdated looking and spec'd camera it must have the best FF sensor Canon has ever made to justify the price since nothing else about this camera comes anywhere near to doing that.

Funny i think that this is a full frame 80D which is pretty much what I wanted and it's only $850 more for full frame. That's pretty cool I think.

What do you think Nikon would charge for a full frame D500 when they are currently pricing the D810 for $1000 more than the D500 and it only puts out 5FPS compared to the D500s 10FPS?


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Jun 29, 2017 20:30 |  #161

FEChariot wrote in post #18390303 (external link)
Funny i think that this is a full frame 80D which is pretty much what I wanted and it's only $850 more for full frame. That's pretty cool I think.


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Jun 29, 2017 20:35 |  #162

My theory of purchasers for the 6D cameras----no data to back this up I bet.
First time purchasers of a Canon DSLR most likely to start with a Rebel or xxD based on entry price. People with plenty of money may jump to a 6D but far more likely to go all the way to a 5 or 1.

Once these Rebel/xxD owners have found POTN they are doomed. So much talk of all the benefits of full frame. Constant talk of new lenses and planning for the future to be sure will work on full frame. Crop lens posts always have reminders of how they are incompatible with the full frame cameras. So it begins - the Rebel/xxD owner starts accumulating full frame lenses and is now totally locked in to the Canon brand with their investment.

Just a matter of time and the peer pressure being applied results in a camera body upgrade!

Logical step up is the 6D as cost far easier to accept than the really big jump to a 5 series. Really logical step now with all the new features of the Mark II version.

So you see, no need to comment on the benefits of a Nikon or Sony or any other brand as very few people can afford to just switch brands on a whim.

Well that is what happened to me starting with my wife purchasing a camera on QVC and it just happened to be a Canon 60D or else I might be a Nikon owner now!
Seriously, I think an extremely low percentage of first time Canon purchasers are going to buy a 6D. Canon has really figured this all out with the wide selection of bodies offered. It has obviously worked as Canon reportedly outsells and out profits the other leading brands by a wide margin.

I am NOT saying anything bad about Nikon as I firmly believe they make quality products. I have far more concerns about Sony and long term quality as I have purchased their various products over 50 years and have seen some periods where they made some high failure rate products.


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Jun 29, 2017 20:40 |  #163

FEChariot wrote in post #18390303 (external link)
Funny i think that this is a full frame 80D which is pretty much what I wanted and it's only $850 more for full frame. That's pretty cool I think.

What do you think Nikon would charge for a full frame D500 when they are currently pricing the D810 for $1000 more than the D500 and it only puts out 5FPS compared to the D500s 10FPS?

My point was that this is not a particularly feature rich or high spec'd camera with a body similar to Canons mid-priced consumer bodies. Except for the sensor, the old 6D was very very long in the tooth. I was expecting a much higher level of specification than this camera provides. However, if the sensor is truly remarkable then it is probably a good value proposition. If it is only marginally better that's a problem for many people. But at this point that's all still an a IF. For current 6D owners this would seem to be a major upgrade. But for others perhaps, not so much.


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Jun 29, 2017 20:48 |  #164

mwsilver wrote in post #18390310 (external link)
My point was that this is not a particularly feature rich or high spec'd camera with a body similar to Canons mid-priced consumer bodies. Except for the sensor, the old 6D was very very long in the tooth. I was expecting a much higher level of specification than this camera provides. However, if the sensor is truly remarkable then it is probably a good value proposition. If it is only marginally better that's a problem. But at this point that's still an a IF. For current 6D owners this would seem to be a major upgrade. But for others perhaps, not so much.

Why would you expect it to be a high spec camera? There is a 5D4 and 1D2 for that. The whole point of the 6 series cameras is to be a full frame budget body similar to the xxD line. The first 6D was less than the 60D for the most part and this version is much closer to the 80D so if anything this took a larger jump. IMO it took a larger jump in specs than the 5D3 to 5D4 took.


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Jun 29, 2017 20:51 |  #165

DreDaze wrote in post #18390290 (external link)
Of all the years of flip out screens ive never seen a busted one...

I've seen a few. Not that hard to destroy when deployed outward on the single hinge. Not pretty when it happens. A friend's 60D LCD got bent and twisted and cracked when caught by an unexpected branch. Mine survived but came close more than a few times.


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