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Thread started 01 Jul 2017 (Saturday) 13:44
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POLL: "With only one choice which would you use for portraits during vacation"
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Jul 01, 2017 13:44 |  #1

So I have the 24-70 Art lens showing up and this will quickly become my main video lens and vacation lens. I would prefer to have a 2.8 zoom w/ a good bounce flash look over a non flashed 1.4 look during vacations. My 85A is NOT a vacation lens period. But I normally take the 50 to handle those needs. With the repurchase of the 16-35 and 24-70 I'm thinking of offloading the 24 and 50 to offset the cost but mostly I just don't like having too many lenses because I just don't use them all.

So for vacation I will always take the 16-35 F4 IS but in addition to would you take the 24-70 or the 50 or both?


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Jul 01, 2017 18:31 |  #2

Of your listed options the 50 but I'd consider getting a Canon 135 f2.8 Soft Focus it's nice and light


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Jul 01, 2017 18:58 |  #3

Ilovetheleafs wrote in post #18392003 (external link)
Of your listed options the 50 but I'd consider getting a Canon 135 f2.8 Soft Focus it's nice and light

Anything longer than the 50-70ish range of my options above will be the 100-400 Sigma C. I have no interest in anything longer that's fast aperture.


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Jul 01, 2017 19:36 |  #4

I can't cast a vote. You didn't include an 85 or 135. Since you are moving back to zooms, what do you want for your 85A? :)




  
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Jul 01, 2017 19:38 as a reply to  @ Talley's post |  #5

Makes sense :) I just thought I would mention a lens that I have been using a lot that I know would be really really good for portraits! :) I have my first portrait shoot soon. And it has been standing up well for wildlife! So if you can find this lens for a song like I did pick it up you'll probably have a lot of fun! :)


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Jul 01, 2017 19:51 |  #6

Bassat wrote in post #18392036 (external link)
I can't cast a vote. You didn't include an 85 or 135. Since you are moving back to zooms, what do you want for your 85A? :)

This is for vacation. I'm not strobing/long lens during vacation. 85A never for sale same as 200L... but everything else has a ticking time bomb next it :)


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Jul 01, 2017 20:07 |  #7

Talley wrote in post #18392052 (external link)
This is for vacation. I'm not strobing/long lens during vacation. 85A never for sale same as 200L... but everything else has a ticking time bomb next it :)

Vacation? In that case, I retract my comments. I don't take cameras on vacation. I used to take a G15, but I hardly used it. I couldn't operate the darn thing with a Pina Colada in each hand.




  
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Jul 02, 2017 05:38 |  #8

Talley wrote in post #18391794 (external link)
So I have the 24-70 Art lens showing up and this will quickly become my main video lens and vacation lens. I would prefer to have a 2.8 zoom w/ a good bounce flash look over a non flashed 1.4 look during vacations. My 85A is NOT a vacation lens period. But I normally take the 50 to handle those needs. With the repurchase of the 16-35 and 24-70 I'm thinking of offloading the 24 and 50 to offset the cost but mostly I just don't like having too many lenses because I just don't use them all.

So for vacation I will always take the 16-35 F4 IS but in addition to would you take the 24-70 or the 50 or both?

That's really subjective.

I used to roll fast primes every where. Now, when we're on a trip, or an event, vacation, park, etc, I'd rather have my 17-40L and an ETTL/HSS flash. I don't bother with longer focal lengths on trips with the family, because generally, I'm not looking to exclude the environment, rather, I'd rather get as much as I can. I thought about picking up a 24-70 (the F4L IS specifically, I'd rather have IS over one stop of focal-ratio personally), but ultimately I'm more often with my family, not just off in the distnace doing photojournalism, I like to do the activities too, so ultrawide lets you do it and be in it too. Also, less is more, in terms of weight, bulk, managing stuff, things to drop, etc. The other lens I use is often the 35 F2 IS (because of the 4 stop IS, very handy over aperture).

The above is in the context of portrait while on vacation with your family though. If you're on vacation and the environment is what you're photographing, then I'd take longer focal lengths. But for specific portrait while on vacation, I'd go ultrawide to get your family and the environment together, as that completes the story/memory, rather than just a blurry background image with a family member but you have to tell someone where you were because they just can't tell.

For your kit, I'd take the 16-35 F4L IS and a flash.

Especially in low ambient light, I'd rather have ultrawide and 4 stop IS. You'll get sharper photos at that focal length with IS helping and even motion blur is less obvious at ultrawide focal lengths. ISO shouldn't be a concern at all (assuming flash isn't used sometimes when it's not appropriate to the situation/environment)​.

Now, I do often take my 35 F2 IS on trips, just for some specific portraits, specifically to be able to put the flash and the larger lens away, and go with a very small slim 5D + 35 F2 IS, which I enjoy and can handle all the light situations no problem with the kids while on a trip.

I often just take my EOS-M and 22mm F2 STM. Small, simple, touch screen, so anyone can use it, with the wee 90EX flash for basic close range fill. Works great. Dirt cheap. Don't care if it takes a dive. I do get tired of my 5D+17-40+flash being big and heavy if it's getting in the way of me participating in the activities and being in the photos with my girls and being on vacation too, I don't always want to just document it and not be involved.

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Jul 02, 2017 09:46 |  #9

If you are set on only the two choices,

24-70 2.8 for versatility

But, for vacation and if keeping full frame I'd go lighter with 24-70 4.0.

However, I now go really light on vacation and agree with malveaux. Recent vacation M5, 18-55, 22, ef+40 and Sirui table top tripod. Pick and choose what I want to take out each day. Covers quick snaps, low light, selfies, artsie, ...., and many times not needing to carry a bag. Keeps my shoulder, back and wife happy while capturing good shots.




  
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Jul 02, 2017 12:25 |  #10

grasshopper315 wrote in post #18392454 (external link)
If you are set on only the two choices,

24-70 2.8 for versatility

But, for vacation and if keeping full frame I'd go lighter with 24-70 4.0.

However, I now go really light on vacation and agree with malveaux. Recent vacation M5, 18-55, 22, ef+40 and Sirui table top tripod. Pick and choose what I want to take out each day. Covers quick snaps, low light, selfies, artsie, ...., and many times not needing to carry a bag. Keeps my shoulder, back and wife happy while capturing good shots.

I keep my wife happy by leaving cameras at home.




  
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Jul 02, 2017 12:32 |  #11

Bassat wrote in post #18392568 (external link)
I keep my wife happy by leaving cameras at home.

My wife wants good photos and leaves the camera in the pocket.

My next few vacations:

Ranch: Can take anything because I'll have cabin and can photo any time I want since it' laid back. I don't take the camera on horse rides nor to dinner times and such but will take it out and a bout a few times a day (sunrise, sunset, star time)

Disney: Ya... this year might be gopro only and X-T20 w/ 18/2

Beachhouse: Same as ranch... casual relax trip... gonna fly the drone alot there but can take what I want just gonna have fun with kids at the beach


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Jul 02, 2017 12:46 |  #12

Talley wrote in post #18392574 (external link)
My wife wants good photos and leaves the camera in the pocket.

My next few vacations:

Ranch: Can take anything because I'll have cabin and can photo any time I want since it' laid back. I don't take the camera on horse rides nor to dinner times and such but will take it out and a bout a few times a day (sunrise, sunset, star time)

Disney: Ya... this year might be gopro only and X-T20 w/ 18/2

Beachhouse: Same as ranch... casual relax trip... gonna fly the drone alot there but can take what I want just gonna have fun with kids at the beach

I guess I am weird. I value the time with my wife, and the experiences, more than any photograph. On my deathbed, i am sure i won't lament missed photo ops.




  
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Jul 02, 2017 15:02 |  #13

Because of the trays and trays of Kodachrome that haven't been viewed in years, if not decades, I have learned to keep the gear at home and just utilize the capabilities of the trusty smartphone.
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Jul 02, 2017 15:07 |  #14

I just got back from vacation to Italy and I really liked the 16-35 50 combo but I'm more of a fan of primes. I took my 24 as well a it's my personal fav but the 16-35 and 50 would be all I really needed.


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Jul 02, 2017 17:07 |  #15

Tommydigi wrote in post #18392658 (external link)
I just got back from vacation to Italy and I really liked the 16-35 50 combo but I'm more of a fan of primes. I took my 24 as well a it's my personal fav but the 16-35 and 50 would be all I really needed.

really tough to go wrong with that combo, I really enjoy a 35/50 as an everyday lens, even the lowely 35 f2.8/ 50 f1.8


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