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Comparing Canon 24-70L 2.8 II sharpness with 50mm 1.8

 
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Jul 04, 2017 10:29 as a reply to  @ post 18394003 |  #31

With today's age of texting and truncating of words, the English language is changing at breakneck speeds. But here is the accepted definition of professional. Note that it also encompasses anything related to one's profession:

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary​/professional (external link)

a : of, relating to, or characteristic of a profession
b : engaged in one of the learned professions
c (1) : characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession (2) : exhibiting a courteous, conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in the workplace

bolded meaning that Canon is referring to. And what your meaning is:

a : participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs a professional golfer
b : having a particular profession as a permanent career a professional soldier
c : engaged in by persons receiving financial return professional football

So, both equally valid definitions of the word professional.


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Jul 04, 2017 10:42 |  #32

davesrose wrote in post #18394013 (external link)
With today's age of texting and truncating of words, the English language is changing at breakneck speeds. But here is the accepted definition of professional. Note that it also encompasses anything related to one's profession:

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary​/professional (external link)

bolded meaning that Canon is referring to. And what your meaning is:

So, both equally valid definitions of the word professional.

By those standards the 50 STM is just as professional as the 24-70II, if it is being used by a professional photographer. Works for me. That's where I started.




  
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Jul 04, 2017 10:48 as a reply to  @ Bassat's post |  #33

And then draw the distinction of a L lens being "professional grade"...then everyone's definition is covered. :-)


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Jul 04, 2017 12:52 |  #34

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By those standards the 50 STM is just as professional as the 24-70II, if it is being used by a professional photographer. Works for me. That's where I started.

Well, then a marshmallow is professional if it is eaten by a professional photographer.


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Jul 04, 2017 12:55 |  #35

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Well, then a marshmallow is professional if it is eaten by a professional photographer.

Well, at least we can all agree on that! :)




  
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Jul 04, 2017 12:58 |  #36

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Well, at least we can all agree on that! :)

... uhm... actually, pros only eat long white marshmallows with a red ring on them.
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Jul 04, 2017 13:02 |  #37

CheshireCat wrote in post #18394128 (external link)
... uhm... actually, pros only eat long white marshmallows with a red ring on them.
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Well, that proves I'm a rank amateur. I like the toasted coconut ones.




  
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Jul 04, 2017 16:24 |  #38

I posted this recently but I don't remember where. I think it's relevant to this discussion.


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Jul 04, 2017 18:13 |  #39

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I posted this recently but I don't remember where. I think it's relevant to this discussion.

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Literally every response I can think of writing would be so crude/risque that it would get me a forum ban ;-)a


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Jul 04, 2017 22:17 |  #40

mcoren wrote in post #18394222 (external link)
I posted this recently but I don't remember where. I think it's relevant to this discussion.

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But does it have a red ring ?


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Jul 05, 2017 13:54 |  #41

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But does it have a red ring ?

I believe that's a "talk to your proctologist" question.


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Jul 05, 2017 14:08 |  #42

Charlie wrote in post #18389374 (external link)
well, historically, the 50 f1.8 has had the most horrific AF known to man. People generally like the 85 f1.8, which isnt a whole lot better optically, but generally well respected for any type of photography.


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...The new 50/1.8 STM should have improved AF performance quite a bit. Though it still remains a cheap 50 for more than one reason.

No question about the STM version,,. I was one of the old lenses most vocal AF detractors,. hated it, gave it away.

I ordered the STM version almost the day it was available, and it truly is a fine lens, and the AF means I finally get to enjoy the "Nifty Fifty"


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Jul 05, 2017 14:14 |  #43

davesrose wrote in post #18394013 (external link)
... But here is the accepted definition of professional. Note that it also encompasses anything related to one's profession:

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary​/professional (external link)

: characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession (2)

bolded meaning that Canon is referring to.

So, both equally valid definitions of the word professional.

The bolded aspect that you are referring to is of course to be used as an adjective to describe an individuals or companies behavior. I can see it being used as an adjective for a product as well,. in either case, far from a new use of the word.

I agree with you it is perfectly proper to use as an adjective to describe behavior or equipment.


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I am still ranked as an amateur arsewiper. Since I would not want to lose my amateur status, (olympics are coming) I can't use this product.


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I am still ranked as an amateur arsewiper. Since I would not want to lose my amateur status, (olympics are coming) I can't use this product.

I'm guessing that's a summer sport. It would be kind of cold in the winter.


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