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Jul 01, 2017 16:09 |  #1

Another shot from the Giants - Ports Minor League game

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Jul 01, 2017 19:12 |  #2

I'm guessing he was safe by a good bit. Looks like he got a great jump.


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Jul 02, 2017 16:30 |  #3

huntersdad wrote in post #18392020 (external link)
I'm guessing he was safe by a good bit. Looks like he got a great jump.

The play was closer than you would guess from the picture. The ball is moving faster than the runner


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Jul 03, 2017 07:45 |  #4

Bignerd wrote in post #18391926 (external link)
Another shot from the Giants - Ports Minor League game

As always C & C are requested.


Shoot tight, crop tighter. I understand your desire to include the ball but it is so far away that it reduces the impact of the moment by being too loose.

You will be able to reduce the background distractions by opening up your aperture. At f/8.0 nearly everything is in focus.

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Jul 03, 2017 10:47 |  #5

Zivnuska wrote in post #18393071 (external link)
Shoot tight, crop tighter. I understand your desire to include the ball but it is so far away that it reduces the impact of the moment by being too loose.

You will be able to reduce the background distractions by opening up your aperture. At f/8.0 nearly everything is in focus.

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Thank you for that input. I will keep trying till I get it right :)


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Jul 03, 2017 12:14 |  #6

Bignerd wrote in post #18393196 (external link)
Thank you for that input. I will keep trying till I get it right :)


It's not right or wrong. Your shot has captured a fine moment. My suggestion is, hopefully, for a way to improve the 'Wow' factor of your image.

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Jul 03, 2017 13:15 |  #7

Zivnuska wrote in post #18393259 (external link)
It's not right or wrong. Your shot has captured a fine moment. My suggestion is, hopefully, for a way to improve the 'Wow' factor of your image.

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I think the wow factor is what I want to achieve. I think that makes the difference between capturing a good moment and creating an image that captivates the audience. The difficult part is that every viewer has a different perception of the quality of an image. The difficult task is creating an image that is "wow" for everyone who views it.


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Jul 03, 2017 13:43 |  #8

Bignerd wrote in post #18393302 (external link)
I think the wow factor is what I want to achieve. I think that makes the difference between capturing a good moment and creating an image that captivates the audience. The difficult part is that every viewer has a different perception of the quality of an image. The difficult task is creating an image that is "wow" for everyone who views it.

I actually agree with Zlvnuska on this one. Tighter is better. The ball does not have to be in the frame for anybody that knows anything about baseball to know what is happening. The image is as or more powerful cropped in tight without the ball. That is where the wow factor will come from.

If you've ever seen the movie Jaws, you'll understand immediately. How many times do you ever see the entire shark in one frame? The directors left it up to the viewers imagination to fill in where the rest of the shark is. Same thing here, leave it up to the viewers to fill in where that ball is, the power is in the base runner launching off the ground and you catching him fully airborne.

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Jul 03, 2017 14:08 |  #9

You were at 150mm on this shot when you probably could have been at 400 or 500. I bet this frame or the frame after at 500mm would have looked pretty good.

I shoot a lot more with long primes these days, and honestly, my stuff is a lot better because I'm forced to shoot tight. Zooms are nice because you can zoom out and make sure you don't miss any action, but unfortunately, the action never looks as good as it could because you are zoomed out. Do I miss a lot of shots or cut off body parts when using my 400mm prime? Sure, but the stuff that hits looks amazing. I'd try to shooting your lens a few times, treating it like a long prime lens (400 to 600mm) and see what you get


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Jul 03, 2017 15:15 |  #10

Strouty wrote in post #18393352 (external link)
You were at 150mm on this shot when you probably could have been at 400 or 500. I bet this frame or the frame after at 500mm would have looked pretty good.

I shoot a lot more with long primes these days, and honestly, my stuff is a lot better because I'm forced to shoot tight. Zooms are nice because you can zoom out and make sure you don't miss any action, but unfortunately, the action never looks as good as it could because you are zoomed out. Do I miss a lot of shots or cut off body parts when using my 400mm prime? Sure, but the stuff that hits looks amazing. I'd try to shooting your lens a few times, treating it like a long prime lens (400 to 600mm) and see what you get

Most definitely I want to be tighter. I did not have time to zoom tighter while taking this shot, and should have had it preset at around 400 mm at least. All in the learning curve. I will go to additional ball games and work on getting it better and more interesting.


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Jul 03, 2017 19:59 |  #11

Here is an example where like was said above, I shot as tight as my gear would allow, and then cropped even tighter.


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Jul 04, 2017 14:09 |  #12

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Here is an example where like was said above, I shot as tight as my gear would allow, and then cropped even tighter.

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Nice shot. What attracts me to this shot is less the dynamics and more of the facial expression and concentration of the first baseman. The base runner is almost an after thought in this image. All that being said, clearly the quality is accomplished by the tightness of the shot, per your comments.


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Jul 05, 2017 09:26 |  #13

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Most definitely I want to be tighter. I did not have time to zoom tighter while taking this shot, and should have had it preset at around 400 mm at least. All in the learning curve. I will go to additional ball games and work on getting it better and more interesting.

What they said about being tighter is right. There can be exceptions like venue type shots.

As far as not having time to zoom, knowing the situation sometimes will let you anticipate probably plays. Such as is the runner one of those who might steal in that game situation? Are there less than two outs and is there a chance they might to want to try to bunt him over. I would have probably been zoomed in on second before the pitch (if there was less than two outs) in case there was a double play ball.

The hardest thing for me is getting a shot of an infielder catching a hard ground ball. I might zoom in on the shortstop or second baseman depending on whether the batter is right or left handed but it is still hard to anticipate where the ball will be hit.

Just my two cents and I am no expert or pro. Just a hobbyist.

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