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Jul 06, 2017 09:44 |  #16

The good thing about buying used items on eBay is that even if the buyer doesn't accept returns, if the item is not as described eBay will always side with the buyer and the seller will be forced to give a refund. Can make selling on eBay a pain since it gives scammers the opportunity to file a complaint then return a box of rocks or dirty diapers, but it makes buying used gear on eBay pretty safe.

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Jul 06, 2017 09:50 |  #17

TreeburnerCT wrote in post #18395358 (external link)
The good thing about buying used items on eBay is that even if the buyer doesn't accept returns, if the item is not as described eBay will always side with the buyer and the seller will be forced to give a refund. Can make selling on eBay a pain since it gives scammers the opportunity to file a complaint then return a box of rocks or dirty diapers, but it makes buying used gear on eBay pretty safe.

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LOL dirty diapers! It seems like a gray area...I wonder how exact it has to be. A thumbprint on the glass but they said "like new". "Great condition" can mean so many things to so many different people.




  
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Jul 06, 2017 10:27 as a reply to  @ Ascenta's post |  #18

Pretty much if the buyer complains eBay sides with them, little to no questions asked. Sellers need to be sure they don't sell to people with little to no feedback, and be thorough in documenting items to confirm condition prior to shipping (like a picture of the item's serial number next to the shipping label). That way if the buyer returns a broken lens of the same model looking for a refund the seller can prove to eBay that the buyer is running a scam.

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Jul 06, 2017 14:45 |  #19

Let me add to the chorus of "good choice"; I love mine. I can't speak to the Sigma, of course, but the L is amazing.


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Jul 11, 2017 08:48 |  #20

Like Mike, I went with the 24-70 II. I just received it from ebay 5 minutes ago! I was sweating bullets after spending $1200 on ebay...I don't even trust $50 purchases. But everything looks good; it's a solid, clean lens inside and out. After taking a few photos in my office, I'm thrilled!! I think I'll be fine without the OS...something I put a lot of faith in.

This leaves me with an even more difficult decision...keep or sell my 24-105 II? They seem too similar to keep both, but I've been using the original since 2006 and now ver. 2, it's hard to let go. But again, it just seems so redundant. I can't see myself carrying both of these bricks in a bag. Fine around home, but even then I have a feeling the 24-70 will stay on the camera.




  
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Jul 11, 2017 10:57 as a reply to  @ Ascenta's post |  #21

use the II with auto ISO and set minimum shutter speed to 1/125s for walkaround. you'll never miss IS. and then there's a tripod....


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Jul 11, 2017 11:40 |  #22

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use the II with auto ISO and set minimum shutter speed to 1/125s for walkaround. you'll never miss IS. and then there's a tripod....

Good point. Before doing something like that, I did a quick comparison with my 24-105 II. I kept it in Program mode. Shutter speed was the same and both wide open, the only thing that changed was ISO 200 to ISO 400. I thought to myself, I gained nothing :(

I will play around with setting the shutter speed. And other pros of course are (I'm assuming) smoother bokeh with the 2.8 and the speed/noise benefits will be more apparent in low light especially when using higher ISO.

Still contemplating...I just like the 24-105 so much.




  
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Jul 11, 2017 14:24 as a reply to  @ Ascenta's post |  #23

much better IQ with the 24-70L II. that and f2.8 are the reasons to own this lens.


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Jul 11, 2017 15:58 |  #24

Still a tough decision!! I can't return it, so it would be a sell/trade which means losing some money. I'll mess around with this for a few more days and make up my mind. So far, the IQ of the 24-105 II is as good, or at least good enough to make them rather redundant.




  
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Jul 12, 2017 06:19 |  #25

Ascenta wrote in post #18399385 (external link)
Like Mike, I went with the 24-70 II. I just received it from ebay 5 minutes ago! I was sweating bullets after spending $1200 on ebay...I don't even trust $50 purchases. But everything looks good; it's a solid, clean lens inside and out. After taking a few photos in my office, I'm thrilled!! I think I'll be fine without the OS...something I put a lot of faith in.

This leaves me with an even more difficult decision...keep or sell my 24-105 II? They seem too similar to keep both, but I've been using the original since 2006 and now ver. 2, it's hard to let go. But again, it just seems so redundant. I can't see myself carrying both of these bricks in a bag. Fine around home, but even then I have a feeling the 24-70 will stay on the camera.

I'm in that same position myself, but with the original 24-105L. For me, I think it'll go - if I'm constrained by size or weight, or want to look less conspicuous, or am concerned about damage or loss, I'd rather take a crop and cheap STM lens. If I'm interested enough in image quality to bring the 5D3, a few ounces or inches aren't going to make me bring a lens I don't like as much.

That, however, is me, and I'd never assume someone else should have the same priorities.


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Jul 12, 2017 19:39 as a reply to  @ Ascenta's post |  #26

Bought my Canon 300 F2.8 L IS, 800 F5.6 L IS 24-70 F2.8 L Mk2 andCanon 1DX from FleaBay - very happy in all cases, especially with the prices! The 1DX and 24-70 Mk2 were new, the others were used.

I know a local FleaBay vendor and they are very much on the side of purchasers so much so that they make life hard for even the most honest vendors!

Can't speak for the Sigma but my 24-70 L Mk2 is noticeably better than the 24-105 F4 L IS that I had, it almost makes me look like I know what I am doing!


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