6d2 is here.

tongard wrote in post #18396884
My canon f1 only had 2000 th sec and flash syn at 125 how did we manage to take photos in those days

Oh horrors, the Nikon F could only shoot to 1/1000 and sync at 1/60, how on earth did anyone shoot anything worth while?!

I was hoping this was going to be my new landscape camera. I am now thinking a good used Nikon 810 for about the same price would be a far better choice. I do not like Nikon's menus but it may be time to try and teach an old dog some new tricks. I will wait for some real time testing in the field since I have waited this long, but if nothing else changes I may go to the dark side.

The 810 is still the gold standard (maybe the Sony AR7-2) and the menus are not all that bad, just different.

Wilt wrote in post #18397235
Oh horrors, the Nikon F could only shoot to 1/1000 and sync at 1/60, how on earth did anyone shoot anything worth while?!

Do you think that no one ever cursed their F when they wanted to shoot at f/1.4 on a sunny day, or freeze action? All you usually see are F pictures that *did* happen successfully, because surprise, surprise, good pictures are shown more than bad ones, and much more often than ones never taken at all because the photographer knew they wouldn't work.

gjl711 wrote in post #18397249
The 810 is still the gold standard (maybe the Sony AR7-2) and the menus are not all that bad, just different.

I may be learning them soon. I really have a lot of Canon glass and plan on staying with Canon for a lot of my shooting, but the 810 and a good landscape lens may be the way I go. I am starting my research now.

I will be patient - there is no reason I can't wait a couple months to read the comments of actual users of the new 6D II. One "review" with a negative is not enough to convince me to look elsewhere. Every new camera Canon releases it seems gets bashed at first yet lately they have shown to be wonderful products - 5D Mark IV, 1D X Mark II, 7D Mark II.

I agree, have to wait until more testing is done and I sure hope this is the anomaly. And who knows, this might turn out to be the speed demon with ultra clean high ISO and in a few months Canon will release the 6D-R with resolution and DR.

gjl711 wrote in post #18397305
I agree, have to wait until more testing is done and I sure hope this is the anomaly. And who knows, this might turn out to be the speed demon with ultra clean high ISO and in a few months Canon will release the 6D-R with resolution and DR.

I wouldn't hold my breadth. on this one.

mwsilver wrote in post #18397309
I wouldn't hold my breadth. on this one.

I could happen.

gjl711 wrote in post #18397213
I know Canon likes to dumb down consumer models but I got to believe that at minimum it would do better than the 5 year old 6D or even the nearly 10 year old 5DII.

Unfortunately, there could be a very simple explanation for the low DR:
It's quite possible that the 6DII sensor is manufactured using the 5DS and 7DII sensor tech.
Both are 'current' models - and neither one has the latest sensor tech that Canon is using in the 1DXII, 5DIV and 80D.

So, while it's surprising that a newer camera would use older sensor tech, this tech is actually still used in 'current' models.
And if Canon has no plans to update the 5DS(R) in the next two years, for example, this tech will remain 'current' for all this time.

I guess only Canon has the answers here.

x-vision wrote in post #18397324
Unfortunately, there could be a very simple explanation for the low DR:
It's quite possible that the 6DII sensor is manufactured using the 5DS and 7DII sensor tech.
Both are 'current' models - and neither one has the latest sensor tech that Canon is using in the 1DXII, 5DIV and 80D.

So, while it's surprising that a newer camera would use older sensor tech, this tech is actually still used in 'current' models.
And if Canon has no plans to update the 5DS(R) in the next two years, for example, this tech will remain 'current' for all this time.

I guess only Canon has the answers here.

Man if thats the case I have some soul searching to do. Canon can't be that stupid can they? I might cancel my preorder and wait to see the first reviews...

x-vision wrote in post #18397324
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It's quite possible that the 6DII sensor is manufactured using the 5DS and 7DII sensor tech.
Both are 'current' models - and neither one has the latest sensor tech that Canon is using in the 1DXII, 5DIV and 80D.

So, while it's surprising that a newer camera would use older sensor tech, this tech is actually still used in 'current' models.....

Stregone wrote in post #18397357
Man if thats the case I have some soul searching to do. Canon can't be that stupid can they? I might cancel my preorder and wait to see the first reviews...

Releasing a new model that does not incorporate the sensor advances that are present in $600.00 rebel series bodies would be a new trick for Canon to pull.

Yes., Canon has eked out life of old sensors many times in the past, putting the same 18MP sensor in a dozen or more bodies for example, but never have they released a NEW sensor that relied on the old tech.

Again, if this ends up being fact, I will be simply amazed.

The picture IQ of the 6D2 is pure conjecture now: it hasn't been released for anyone to do tests with the production 6D2.

John Sheehy wrote in post #18397262
Do you think that no one ever cursed their F when they wanted to shoot at f/1.4 on a sunny day, or freeze action? All you usually see are F pictures that *did* happen successfully, because surprise, surprise, good pictures are shown more than bad ones, and much more often than ones never taken at all because the photographer knew they wouldn't work.

Photographers simply altered their techniques...a -3EV ND is all that it takes to create the difference of exposure at 1/1000 vs. at 1/8000 shutter speed.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18397377
Releasing a new model that does not incorporate the sensor advances that are present in $600.00 rebel series bodies would be a new trick for Canon to pull.

Yes., Canon has eked out life of old sensors many times in the past, putting the same 18MP sensor in a dozen or more bodies for example, but never have they released a NEW sensor that relied on the old tech.

Again, if this ends up being fact, I will be simply amazed.

After thinking about it it doesn't quite make sense. None of those older tech sensors are DPAF are they? Doesn't make sense that they would make a new DPAF sensor with old tech.