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Sunrise on Llywn-on-Reservoir, South Wales. Go for it, Tell me what you think.

 
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Jul 20, 2017 16:02 |  #1


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Jul 20, 2017 16:31 |  #2

This take crops top and bottom and puts foreground/background in approximately equal exposure. The crop on top may well be too much.


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Jul 20, 2017 16:53 as a reply to  @ AZGeorge's post |  #3

Thank you for the critique. I deliberately put the rocks in for foreground interest, but having seen your crop the end result is much better than my original. It's great to see other ideas, thank you.


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Jul 22, 2017 16:11 |  #4

Okay, I admit it. I'm a contrail hater. If this were my shot, I would see what I could do to get rid of them.


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Jul 22, 2017 18:29 |  #5

joedlh wrote in post #18408673 (external link)
Okay, I admit it. I'm a contrail hater. If this were my shot, I would see what I could do to get rid of them.

Me too! Clone 'em out.


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Jul 22, 2017 21:27 |  #6

Try messing with the white balance. Seems awfully yellow. Also, see if you can do anything with the shadows on the opposite side of the lake. Just a little bit of detail would help, I think.


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Jul 25, 2017 19:05 |  #7

Keith, you have some great scenery in that location! Going for some foreground interest is certainly a good thing and can add nice balance to a landscape shot such as this. It's a nice capture.

I think where the challenge lies here is that the foreground interest looks a bit "forced" and perhaps, overemphasized - giving the shot somewhat of an unnatural look.

The "star" in this photograph is the sunset over the mountains and the reflection of the same in the lake. The foreground light is pretty obviously achieved with a flash, which does a couple of things. One, it casts strong light from a direction that the sun is not shining from (the unnatural part) and the flash also emphasizes every bright object in the foreground (leaves, beach trash, etc.), each of which does its part to distract the eye from the "star" of the photo.

I don't think a graduated neutral density filter is quite the answer here (to keep the brighter part of the sunset from being too bright and blowing out the highlights) because the reflection of the sun is so low in the shot.

I think this scene would be a better candidate for exposure bracketing, which you may already be familiar with, but if not - exposure bracketing involves the capturing of the same scene at three (or more) different exposure levels in succession (there is a setting in the camera for this). One exposure is underexposed to capture the highlights without blowing them out, another exposure is overexposed to allow shadow detail to be seen and a third exposure with a mid-tone average of the two. The trio of shots are then combined and balanced in an editing program such as Photoshop, etc.

It is not difficult to combine the exposures (the program does it for you). It's a bit more of a challenge to blend them well for a natural look, but it would allow the foreground to look natural and "present" without overemphasizing it as well as all of the bright bits on the beach.

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