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Options - Sigma 100-400mm or Canon 100-400mm L II?

 
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Jul 31, 2017 07:51 |  #1

I posted a recent thread asking for opinions on a Lens for an up coming trip to South Africa later this year and the new Sigma 100-400mm was mentioned along with a few others. The Sigma 150-600mm was also mentioned but I think this will just be too big, as well as the obvious Canon 100-400mm L II lens.

So, I have been doing the usual reading/watching reviews etc on line which has now created a few more queries -? I'm now thinking of either splashing out on the Canon 100-400mm L II or saving some money and going for the new Sigma 100-400mm.

From what I can find out so far the Sigma seems to be more or less on par with regards to image quality comparing with the Canon 100-400mm L II, however, going by the very few reviews of the Sigma 100-400mm, the ones that I can find seem to report the AF is not that great especially with subjects moving towards the camera?

My use will be on a 70d and I will be using it for the Safari later in the year (private game reserve so up to 400mm should be ok) and my main other use is Motorsport (hence the slight concern with AF).

As well as my 70d I also have the 18-135mm kit lens and also a Canon 70-300mm IS (non L) lens. I was actually using the Canon 70-300mm lens only yesterday at a motorsport event and to be fair to it, it seemed to serve me ok but I guess either the new Sigma or Canon 100-400mm L II would be a big improvement?

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1) I was wondering if anyone may have/used a Sigma 100-400mm and could comment on the AF speed/any issues?

2) Should I just stump up and get the Canon and be done with it?

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Jul 31, 2017 09:36 |  #2

Easy. If you have money, get Canon 100-400mm II. If you don't, wait and save a bit, then get Canon 100-400 II. It's worth every penny and you can always get the refurb one if you want to save money.


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Aug 01, 2017 03:21 |  #3

The advantage of the Canon is you won't have to wonder. Other than spending 3-5 times the price on a Super tele, you will have the best.
Best optically, best AF, best IS. Further down the track, if you upgrade your body you will also gain some AF advantage (ie 80D has 27 AF points at F8 with the 100-400 and 1.4 TCIII).


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Aug 01, 2017 05:29 |  #4

2loose wrote in post #18415374 (external link)
Easy. If you have money, get Canon 100-400mm II. If you don't, wait and save a bit, then get Canon 100-400 II. It's worth every penny and you can always get the refurb one if you want to save money.

I'm in line with this reasoning here. I think that the Canon 100-400II is the best lens in Canon's lineup, and will whole heartedly recommend it to anyone who asks :-) Now, putting my slight 100-400II inner-fanboy aside and objectively look at the OP's situation:

I haven't shot with the Sigma, but by all accounts it seems like a great lens. Try to make your way to a camera store and try it out, see if it works OK with your 70D. I haven't heard any reports of the Sigma 100-400 having AF issues, but if you try the lens out and it doesn't meet your expectations, and if money is still an issue, maybe consider the Canon 100-400 v1?

If money isn't an issue, get the Canon 100-400II outright and be done with it.


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Aug 01, 2017 08:25 |  #5

I am still happy with my old version of the 100-400L. It now sells used for about the same price as a new Sigma 100-400. The Canon will be compatible with any future Canon body you buy. The Sigma may be compatible.

If I were buying a long zoom right now, it would another 100-400Lc. No brainer from where I sit.




  
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Aug 01, 2017 08:37 |  #6

Echoing what others have said, get the 100-400 II. It's the best in class and is really quite a superb lens.


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Aug 01, 2017 11:30 |  #7

I have the Sigma 100-400 and couldn't be happier. I am using it on a 6D and 70D. Did MFA in camera and set the lens to fast focus and Dynamic OS. Great lens and so light to haul around. Can use push/pull or rotate for zoom. You need the dock to change settings and it is very easy to do.


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Aug 01, 2017 16:39 |  #8

greenjeans wrote in post #18416360 (external link)
I have the Sigma 100-400 and couldn't be happier. I am using it on a 6D and 70D. Did MFA in camera and set the lens to fast focus and Dynamic OS. Great lens and so light to haul around. Can use push/pull or rotate for zoom. You need the dock to change settings and it is very easy to do.

Have you had any issues with AF with quick moving objects, especially those coming towards the camera?




  
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Aug 01, 2017 17:10 |  #9

I have the Canon 100-400L II and I'm very pleased. Great contrast, IS, MFD and AF is spot on. All this for a price and weight. The Sigma has no tripod collar so vertical shooting might be an issue. TDP's review noted some focus inconsistencies with the Sigma. MFD of the Sigma is twice that of the Canon. The Sigma is a 1/3 of a stop slower.

I'd save and get the Canon if you can't afford it now.




  
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Aug 01, 2017 17:15 |  #10

notastockpikr wrote in post #18416619 (external link)
The Sigma is a stop slower.

1/3 stop.


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Aug 01, 2017 17:33 |  #11

you'll be shooting in low light at hi ISOs a lot. so factor in AF speed and accuracy. also, I would not own a 400mm lens that didn't have a tripod collar. in Africa at least 95% of my shots from safari jeeps were with monopod attached to tripod collar so I could quickly pivot and change orientation from landscape to portrait.

is this a trip of a lifetime or just another vacation?


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Aug 01, 2017 18:28 |  #12

I use the 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II lens on my Canon 7D2 and could not be happier. IQ is great, Auto Focus is quick and totally accurate AND the IS is unbelievable! I replaced the Canon 300mm f/4L IS and 400mm f/5.6L lenses with this one zoom. No loss in quality but, a slight loss in aperture from the 300mm f/4L IS lens. However, that has not bothered me one bit!

I have shot airshows, polo matches and surfing contest with the 7d2 and 100-400 II and have not found that combination lacking.

I wish however, that Canon had done photographers a great favor by the simple step of supplying a tripod mount with Arca Capability. As it is supplied now, I have spent an additional $100 USD to purchase a Kirk Arca Compatible tripod mount for my lens. Well worth the cost but,a bit of forethought by canon would have made that expense unnecessary...


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Aug 01, 2017 20:06 |  #13

RPCrowe wrote in post #18416701 (external link)
I wish however, that Canon had done photographers a great favor by the simple step of supplying a tripod mount with Arca Capability. As it is supplied now, I have spent an additional $100 USD to purchase a Kirk Arca Compatible tripod mount for my lens. Well worth the cost but,a bit of forethought by canon would have made that expense unnecessary...

Many of us including me rarely use the foot because we use this lens mostly hand-held. And many don't need Arca-Swiss compatibility.

So I think Canon did many of us a great favor by NOT including a more expensive foot, because they would have had to charge everybody $100 more for the lens.


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Aug 01, 2017 20:24 |  #14

I have two Sigma lenses with which I am quite happy- a 17-50 and a 50-150. Sigma makes a good product. I purchased the Tamron 150-600, and it does a good job, also.

Earlier in the Spring there were funds available for the Canon 100-400L v.II.

The Canon is the one to buy. Period. It takes you from Good to Great. The suggestion posted earlier to consider a refurbished version in order to save money is an excellent suggestion. The Canon lens simply works faster, better, is sharper, and is far easier to hand-hold, even though I most often use a tripod. It focuses close enough for an almost macro capability, and is simply the best lens I have.

In the long run, it's less expensive to buy the best lens first and avoid replacing it. The others are quite good- the Canon is better.


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Aug 01, 2017 21:11 |  #15

Archibald wrote in post #18416622 (external link)
1/3 stop.


My bad.

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