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May 29, 2017 14:44 |  #16

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #18365834 (external link)
Yeah, I really don't know how people lug so much gear around for such a long period of time... I was feeling sore just after a 5 hour wedding with my 3 Fuji bodies, and for most of it I only carried 2 at a time and no bag... and I'm under 30! :lol:


I used to carry a medium format SLR and zoom lens and potatomasher flash on a flash rotating bracket, for 10 hr. wedding coverage back before the year 2000.
Bronica ETRSi + metering prism + 45-90mm zoom + speed grip + Metz 45CL flash + Newton flash rotator = 9 lbs. 1 oz.
Add a Quantum Turbo battery on the shoulder to power the flash.
And the bag full of lenses and film magazines.


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May 29, 2017 14:53 |  #17

Wilt wrote in post #18365850 (external link)
I used to carry a medium format SLR and zoom lens and potatomasher flash on a flash rotating bracket, for 10 hr. wedding coverage back before the year 2000.
Bronica ETRSi + metering prism + 45-90mm zoom + speed grip + Metz 45CL flash + Newton flash rotator = 9 lbs. 1 oz.
Add a Quantum Turbo battery on the shoulder to power the flash.
And the bag full of lenses and film magazines.

O hell no. Lol :-P


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May 29, 2017 15:01 |  #18

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O hell no. Lol :-P

REAL MEN carry 9+ lbs. cameras and lift them a thousand times or more over the course of a ten hour day, and then are not sore the next day! ;-)a


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May 29, 2017 15:12 |  #19

I don't miss lugging around two 5D3's and a handful of lenses and lights at all. Much nicer now with mirrorless. Two cameras held up by my moneymaker and an Ona Bowery for spare lenses etc... Good shoes helped the most though.


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May 29, 2017 15:16 |  #20

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I don't miss lugging around two 5D3's and a handful of lenses and lights at all. Much nicer now with mirrorless. Two cameras held up by my moneymaker and an Ona Bowery for spare lenses etc... Good shoes helped the most though.

I was about to message you to ask about your setup. I wore all black adidas ultra boost and that made a huge difference. I wasn't sore the next day at all but I did have moments were my hand cramped during the wedding.


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May 29, 2017 15:55 |  #21

With my Spider holster I can lug dslr's effortlessly. I usually had a neoprene op/tech neck strap for one camera and another camera on the side holster.

If I put my fuji body on my spider holster (sitting right side of my hip) I cannot even tell it's even there!!!

Osa, if you add a light weight aluminum grip on your fuji you'll probably find you'll never had cramping :) Get some GT5000 rubber grip tape (hand gun grip tape) and you'll think the camera grip is Oem.


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May 29, 2017 16:09 |  #22

Usually I wear a Boss suit, looks good in everyone else photos or whatever will fit into the day, The amount of times a second shooter turns up in a check shirt and baggy trousers for me is once, as they will get into some shots and really look out of place, not good as far as I'm concerned. The moneymaker and bowery are part of that smart look too, plus they feel great and start conversation most weddings, apparently I look like Bruce Willis. Although that was said when I was just in a white T-shirt and jeans in an ice cave, I kinda understood that one. For shoes I wear Clarks, they are very comfortable all day [tested over 14 hours, sadly] and have a clean/smart look. I think making the little extra effort helps on the day but you don't have to go over the top & I'd rather fit in to the crowds dress sense as I am part of the wedding standing right beside the bride/groom of a good part of the day, you are going to get in photos that get shared from time to time.

The good shoes really was the best investment I ever made, if I have a long drive home a fresh pair of socks and some trainers for the drive = bliss.

In the bowery I usually carry two extra lenses a flash+cable [perhaps until good triggers are available] batteries, cleaning cloth, SD cards, business cards etc... Everything else is in the rollers until I know need it. That's for the working part of the day, the 'church' and the procession into the reception, the formals are a one camera affair, more or less. The afters also one camera only.

I eat nuts as well as oat bars and always have some water near by, eating a banana each day for the week before a wedding will help with the cramps - that and doing weddings regularly, ha!
Hope you had fun, I really like weddings, so personal to be invited to stand right next to a couple while they tie the knot.


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May 29, 2017 17:42 |  #23

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Usually I wear a Boss suit, looks good in everyone else photos or whatever will fit into the day, The amount of times a second shooter turns up in a check shirt and baggy trousers for me is once, as they will get into some shots and really look out of place, not good as far as I'm concerned. The moneymaker and bowery are part of that smart look too, plus they feel great and start conversation most weddings, apparently I look like Bruce Willis. Although that was said when I was just in a white T-shirt and jeans in an ice cave, I kinda understood that one. For shoes I wear Clarks, they are very comfortable all day [tested over 14 hours, sadly] and have a clean/smart look. I think making the little extra effort helps on the day but you don't have to go over the top & I'd rather fit in to the crowds dress sense as I am part of the wedding standing right beside the bride/groom of a good part of the day, you are going to get in photos that get shared from time to time.

The good shoes really was the best investment I ever made, if I have a long drive home a fresh pair of socks and some trainers for the drive = bliss.

In the bowery I usually carry two extra lenses a flash+cable [perhaps until good triggers are available] batteries, cleaning cloth, SD cards, business cards etc... Everything else is in the rollers until I know need it. That's for the working part of the day, the 'church' and the procession into the reception, the formals are a one camera affair, more or less. The afters also one camera only.

I eat nuts as well as oat bars and always have some water near by, eating a banana each day for the week before a wedding will help with the cramps - that and doing weddings regularly, ha!
Hope you had fun, I really like weddings, so personal to be invited to stand right next to a couple while they tie the knot.


Thanks for the input! I wore a tailored black polo and trousers to my first rodeo. I'm in luxury retail sales so how I dress is very important.

On the money maker, it looks like a good option for me in the future. My buddy has one and he loves it. I think it was the booster grip that made my hand cramp as I haven't held it for extended periods before, next time I will go without it.

And yes shooting more weddings will definitely help me out!


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May 29, 2017 18:04 |  #24

Wilt wrote in post #18365876 (external link)
REAL MEN carry 9+ lbs. cameras and lift them a thousand times or more over the course of a ten hour day, and then are not sore the next day! ;-)a

You try lifting/throwing/holdi​ng/catching 50-150lbs kids 6 days a week for 10 years, then tell me about how you're not sore the next day. ;)

My arms aren't the issue, carrying around extra gear means extra strain on my already troubled back, no thanks.

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18365933 (external link)
Usually I wear a Boss suit, looks good in everyone else photos or whatever will fit into the day, The amount of times a second shooter turns up in a check shirt and baggy trousers for me is once, as they will get into some shots and really look out of place, not good as far as I'm concerned. The moneymaker and bowery are part of that smart look too, plus they feel great and start conversation most weddings, apparently I look like Bruce Willis. Although that was said when I was just in a white T-shirt and jeans in an ice cave, I kinda understood that one. For shoes I wear Clarks, they are very comfortable all day [tested over 14 hours, sadly] and have a clean/smart look. I think making the little extra effort helps on the day but you don't have to go over the top & I'd rather fit in to the crowds dress sense as I am part of the wedding standing right beside the bride/groom of a good part of the day, you are going to get in photos that get shared from time to time.

The good shoes really was the best investment I ever made, if I have a long drive home a fresh pair of socks and some trainers for the drive = bliss.

In the bowery I usually carry two extra lenses a flash+cable [perhaps until good triggers are available] batteries, cleaning cloth, SD cards, business cards etc... Everything else is in the rollers until I know need it. That's for the working part of the day, the 'church' and the procession into the reception, the formals are a one camera affair, more or less. The afters also one camera only.

I eat nuts as well as oat bars and always have some water near by, eating a banana each day for the week before a wedding will help with the cramps - that and doing weddings regularly, ha!
Hope you had fun, I really like weddings, so personal to be invited to stand right next to a couple while they tie the knot.

I totally agree on the looking sharp part. I was a guest at a wedding a few years ago and the photographer there was wearing some cargo shorts and a polo and he stuck out so much that it bothered me even as a guest :lol:

I need to heed your advice on shoes... my feet didn't feel very good after the last wedding I shot, just a pair of cheap oxfords :mrgreen:


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Jun 02, 2017 13:26 |  #25

AlanU wrote in post #18365916 (external link)
With my Spider holster I can lug dslr's effortlessly. I usually had a neoprene op/tech neck strap for one camera and another camera on the side holster.

If I put my fuji body on my spider holster (sitting right side of my hip) I cannot even tell it's even there!!!

Osa, if you add a light weight aluminum grip on your fuji you'll probably find you'll never had cramping :) Get some GT5000 rubber grip tape (hand gun grip tape) and you'll think the camera grip is Oem.

I had my X-T2 across the body with the peak design slide lite and the weight didn't bother me. I felt the weight when I went to grab the camera.

I will look into the grip with out the battery pack, it might be better for shooting all day.


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You try lifting/throwing/holdi​ng/catching 50-150lbs kids 6 days a week for 10 years, then tell me about how you're not sore the next day. ;)

[hesitating] should I call the Bowie MD cops to report suspected child abuse?! lifting/throwing/holdi​ng/catching 50-150lbs kids 6 days a week for 10 years???


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[hesitating] should I call the Bowie MD cops to report suspected child abuse?! lifting/throwing/holdi​ng/catching 50-150lbs kids 6 days a week for 10 years???

Lol he is a an Gym instructor I assume


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Lol he is a an Gym instructor I assume

Correct. I coach gymnastics. They don't learn to do those skills by praying and chucking themselves into the air :rolleyes:


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Up until the mid-'90s I mostly shot with a full Hasselblad rig. Then moved to 35mm as films like Fuji Reala , NPS, and NPH came on the market, and finally to digital in 2003. Since 2009 I have only been a second shooter, using a Canon 6D and lighter lenses for the past several years. I had no trouble with weight until I broke my back in 2005. I'm 80 now, and moving to lighter and lighter equipment. I would be shooting with micro 4/3s if my primary shooter would let me, but I think she'll be okay with the Fuji kit I'm acquiring.

We don't do weddings longer than eight hours. For the sake of my back, I take two advil and two tylenol at the beginning and repeat after five or six hours. Works okay, as do my Rockport wingtips.

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