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What's your take on the Canon 70-300 DO?

 
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Aug 03, 2017 23:19 |  #16

ed rader wrote in post #18418784 (external link)
if you prize size over IQ and are willing to pay a premium the DO might be for you. otherwise the 70-300L is the ticket.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …O-IS-USM-Lens-Review.aspx (external link)

Money must grow on trees at the Rader estate. Op asks about a $350-400 lens option and you point him at an option costing new at 4 times the price.


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Aug 03, 2017 23:21 |  #17

Bassat wrote in post #18418818 (external link)
I've heard the same marketing schpeel. I prefer to think of it as, "Not as quiet as STM, and slower than USM." Perspective is everything.

Have you used one yourself? I can definitely see that perspective though since I have not used one either.


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Aug 03, 2017 23:46 |  #18

I bought the 70-300L used for $650 last fall but then had to sell it this spring to pay a bill. I regularly see them around $700-750( ending auctions, not buy-it-now) on ebay. I don't know how long it would take you to get from your stated 'max $500' to say, $750 to allow you to bite, but it is an awesome lens. It has VERY fast AF. I was very pleased with the IQ. It packs much smaller the all the 1-4s. I would not call it light, but it feels very solid. You can add a 1.4x extender when zoomed out to 300mm. I wouldn't put it on at any other lengths though in fear of bumping the mount lens element but it does work. So in a pinch you could have a 420mm f8

The digital picture's review of the DO version kept me from ever considering it.


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Aug 04, 2017 04:10 |  #19

FEChariot wrote in post #18418820 (external link)
Have you used one yourself? I can definitely see that perspective though since I have not used one either.

No. I've never used one. My take on this lens is based on TDP's review and the words of Rudy Winston re: the concept on nano-USM.




  
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Aug 04, 2017 04:26 |  #20

No mention of the Tamron? I sold mine because I was not using it as much. A bargain new, even better bargain used. I thought it was great.


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Aug 04, 2017 13:58 as a reply to  @ FEChariot's post |  #21

i sold my 70-300L for under $700 recently so i'm not sure where youre getting your prices. i'd recommend saving for a decent lens rather than buying one you won't be happy with because it's cheap, which i consider a real waste of money.


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Aug 04, 2017 15:29 |  #22

ed rader wrote in post #18419301 (external link)
i sold my 70-300L for under $700 recently so i'm not sure where youre getting your prices. i'd recommend saving for a decent lens rather than buying one you won't be happy with because it's cheap, which i consider a real waste of money.

OK I didn't realize the used market for these fell through the roof. Typically I am used to seeing used lenses at 80-90% of new costs which would put it at $1080 based on B&H's current new price of $1350. $700 is only barley above 50% of new. What the heck happened to the used price of the L lens?


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Aug 04, 2017 15:32 as a reply to  @ FEChariot's post |  #23

they don't hold their value well. never have. I also recently picked up a LN 70-200L f4 IS with Vello tripod collar, box and all original packaging for $695, which is a steal so I didn't feel too bad.


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Aug 04, 2017 15:35 |  #24

Bassat wrote in post #18418903 (external link)
No. I've never used one. My take on this lens is based on TDP's review and the words of Rudy Winston re: the concept on nano-USM.


OK I read Bryan's review and nothing about what he siad or his quote from Rudy Winston leads me to think that:

Bassat wrote in post #18418818 (external link)
think of it as, "Not as quiet as STM, and slower than USM." Perspective is everything.

"Like Ring USM driven AF systems, Nano USM focuses extremely fast. Like STM AF systems, Nano USM focuses almost silently, with only faint sounds heard with one's ear next to the lens. And, Nano USM focuses very smoothly.

Canon U.S.A.'s Rudy Winston states: "Canon’s new Nano USM technology uses a completely different form factor, but achieves focus results within the lens via the same principles of ultrasonic vibration energy, transmitted here into linear (rather than rotational) movement within the lens. This tiny new Ultrasonic motor achieves the combination of fast, near-instant response during still image shooting, with the smoothness required for good focus during video recording."

Dustin Abbott is also saying it focuses as fast as any regular USM lens here:

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=_mTmcVMl-qY (external link)

Now for certain the Sigma 100-400 is much sharper, provided the lenses actually hits focus and that is a big if.


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Aug 04, 2017 15:58 |  #25

I appreciate all the info provided. So much stuff to research and try but it is part of the journey and I don't mind doing it. I really love everything about the 300/4 prime. Sadly the 400 with IS is way above budget. I will be trying the tamron 150-600 next week and see how it goes. Luckily a friend of mine has one in canon mount.



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Aug 05, 2017 08:47 |  #26

I don't see in your posts what camera you are using? There are a couple EF-S lenses that could be considered.
I highly recommend the 70-300L and if anything happened to ours I would replace it immediately. Absolutely my wife's favorite lens. Great on FF and truly shines focal length wise on a crop camera.


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Aug 05, 2017 09:22 as a reply to  @ Petie53's post |  #27

Hello, I am currently using a 1dmk3. I am gravitating towards the 300f4. iS is good, af is good, and the really close focus is a plus for the hummingbirds. The other ones I'm considering is the 100-400 l or one of the third party 150-600s.



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Aug 05, 2017 10:51 |  #28

FEChariot wrote in post #18419353 (external link)
Now for certain the Sigma 100-400 is much sharper, provided the lenses actually hits focus and that is a big if.

As per Dustin Abbott, the lens is good for single focus AF, but cannot reliably track subjects moving toward the camera:

https://youtu.be/OWWT1​e5rRkg (external link)

However, I am not sure how much better the other cheap alternatives mentioned in this thread would work with AF tracking.


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Aug 05, 2017 16:46 |  #29

CheshireCat wrote in post #18419866 (external link)
As per Dustin Abbott, the lens is good for single focus AF, but cannot reliably track subjects moving toward the camera:

https://youtu.be/OWWT1​e5rRkg (external link)

However, I am not sure how much better the other cheap alternatives mentioned in this thread would work with AF tracking.

Unfortunately, that review was the final nail in the coffin for me buying the Sigma. I had hopes and wanted to buy it before then.


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Aug 08, 2017 12:54 |  #30

I still own my 2nd 70-300mm DO.

When it first was launched, it was in a class by itself in that it was not only compact, but the build and features of this lens were light years ahead of any other 7x-300mm lens.
In essence it was the FIRST 70-300mm "L" in build quality, AF and IS etc..

It's AF is much faster than the then current 100-400mm f/5.6L IS (1st version)
It's IS was also far better.

It does not have the 100-400mm's contrast though, but in most cases, this could be fixed in post. The images also benefit from a slightly different sharpening process than most other lenses.

Since the DO, there are other options. The "L" has been mentioned, and SIGMA's newest, the 100-400mm C is also worth mentioning, though not at all as compact as the DO, it is very small and light for a 400mm zoom.

We just took that SIGMA across Botswana these past two weeks,. and the results look fantastic. We did not bring the DO :)

Both the Canon "L" and the new Sigma are in some ways better than the DO, BUT of the three, only the DO is going to give you 70-300mm in a truly small stealthy lens.

I have no hands on experience with the newest "kit" 7x-300mm,. historically all the Canon ones have been pretty bad. If they have made it comparable to the 50-250STM, then it woudl truly be another to consider.


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