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Aug 07, 2017 18:59 |  #1741

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #18421747 (external link)
I need to get to a shop to see if Nikon and my hands are a good fit.

In the shop ... it won't be. If you want to give a Nikon camera a fair crack of the whip, you have to be prepared to spend a few days with it.

I shoot Canon but I'm not very bothered what other people prefer and if you are thinking of changing to Nikon, give it a fair try ... don't make up your mind in a photography store.


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Aug 07, 2017 19:03 |  #1742

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It has been proven by double-blind tests that people cannot distinguish a stereo SACD from a CD. The sample contained also audio engineers.

Is SACD doomed ? :)
http://www.audioxpress​.com …upload/files/ga​lo2941.pdf (external link)

SACD has always been a niche market, with mainly classical concerts being recorded in DSD: a well mixed SACD does sound great. But my classical SACDs do have more of a soundstage and dynamics. A well mixed CD sounds great, also.

There's also been double blind tests using coat hangers as speaker wires, but it didn't seem to "prove" things either.


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Aug 07, 2017 19:07 |  #1743

davesrose wrote in post #18421674 (external link)
He was also floored that a $3000+ camera wouldn't have wifi, when his cell phone did that.

Yes, that is embarrassing but will save Canon a couple dollars per camera.
Same with GPS.
And yes - we are really talking about a couple dollars.


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Aug 07, 2017 19:10 |  #1744

DaviSto wrote in post #18421754 (external link)
In the shop ... it won't be. If you want to give a Nikon camera a fair crack of the whip, you have to be prepared to spend a few days with it.

I shoot Canon but I'm not very bothered what other people prefer but if you are thinking of changing to Nikon, give it a fair try ... don't make up your mind in a photography store.

Totally agree.

When I was looking to go full frame ( a couple years ago) from the 70D. I REALLY wanted a 6D after seeing some of the really nice images that were coming out of it. So while my 70D was off to one of its MANY trips to canon repair I rented a 6D to do a week long pet event. What a eye opening disappointment that turned out to be. By day 3 I disliked almost everything about that camera. I was not happy that my 70D was in the shop for like the 4'th time in 2 months but I was really glad I didnt waste my time/money on the 6D. That one week rental was a far better deal than me buying a camera I was convinced would work for me.




  
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Aug 07, 2017 19:17 |  #1745

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And we should print our snaps ... or we won't have the biscuit tins and badly arranged albums to work through forty or fifty years on.

You will anyway. Don't worry ;)
I wish my grandparents had a scanner.


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Aug 07, 2017 19:19 |  #1746

CheshireCat wrote in post #18421765 (external link)
Yes, that is embarrassing but will save Canon a couple dollars per camera.
Same with GPS.
And yes - we are really talking about a couple dollars.

I don't think so: not at the time the 5D3 came out. Canon would have to compromise on their weather sealing and have a plastic section for WiFi and GPS. At the time the 5D3 came out, if it did use Wifi it would be an older and slower standard. So I'm sure there would be some people who would complain about it not being all metal/weather sealed, or some complaining of slower file transfer speeds. Can't please everyone :-)


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Aug 07, 2017 19:22 |  #1747

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #18421747 (external link)
. Of course, I've never even held a Nikon in my hands yet. I need to get to a shop to see if Nikon and my hands are a good fit.

I see you're in the Netherlands. Can you rent a Nikon there? I think that you could learn a lot more about a camera by renting it and spending time with it than just trying it in a shop (not a lot of birds flying around camera shops).


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Aug 07, 2017 19:25 |  #1748

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I know it's conditional with other cameras that have different AF types. I thought the 6D2 used the same cross type sensors throughout?

https://www.canonrumor​s.com/forum/index.php?​topic=33085.0 (external link)


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Aug 07, 2017 19:28 |  #1749

davesrose wrote in post #18421759 (external link)
There's also been double blind tests using coat hangers as speaker wires, but it didn't seem to "prove" things either.

Interesting. Point me to the source, please.


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Aug 07, 2017 19:33 |  #1750

davesrose wrote in post #18421783 (external link)
I don't think so: not at the time the 5D3 came out. Canon would have to compromise on their weather sealing and have a plastic section for WiFi and GPS.

Wonder why no one complains about the 1Dx2 GPS...
Probably because plastic is perfectly weather proof.

At the time the 5D3 came out, if it did use Wifi it would be an older and slower standard.

Yes. Camera of the past came out with older and slower standards than cameras of the future. Not sure I get your point :)


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Aug 07, 2017 19:38 |  #1751

CheshireCat wrote in post #18421800 (external link)
Interesting. Point me to the source, please.

I remember that :)

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Aug 07, 2017 19:39 |  #1752

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I dont know why but this just bothered me a bit as if every person who picks up a dslr must learn every aspect of photography so that they can be be a great photographer. And if i am upgrading then i am most certainly doing it for the sole reason that i expect the camera to give me more professional results. Or as we would say on potn the camera would allow me more oportunities to be able to capture the moment more easily.

I don't think you need to learn EVERY aspect, but a few would be nice. Several years ago, my friend wanted to take photos of her kids playing sports. Camera store did her a solid and sold her a used Canon 70-200 f/2.8, another walk around lens, a flash unit and DSLR (I don't remember what body). She took some great action photos of her kids on full auto. But she never took the time to learn how to use her camera and get off the green box. I don't think she ever used the flash. She was unhappy with her inside, low light photos of family, so she went to the big box store, bought a point and shoot because the box said it was good for low light. It wasn't, but the DSLR with flash that she already owned would have done fine. She would have done a lot better to take a camera class (that store offered a free class if you bought a camera).


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Aug 07, 2017 19:47 |  #1753

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Wonder why no one complains about the 1Dx2 GPS...
Probably because plastic is perfectly weather proof.

Yes. Camera of the past came out with older and slower standards than cameras of the future. Not sure I get your point :)

My point was that it appeared you were basing your bias against the 5D3's lack of wifi and GPS on current technology. Now it is cheaper and easier to include wifi that also has faster standards.


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Aug 07, 2017 20:01 |  #1754

I think there's been other tests as well. Monster is over-priced crap. Anyway, this isn't an audio forum, and most posts are now heading back to photography :-)


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Aug 07, 2017 20:10 |  #1755

John Sheehy wrote in post #18421737 (external link)
The number of f/8 AF points on the 6D2 is conditional on the lens and TC model, IIRC.

The list I thought I saw was prohibitive even with some recent lenses and the Canon v3 TCs.


ie: exactly the same as the 5D4 and 1Dx2 :)


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