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Apr 15, 2011 07:15 |  #16

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About a month ago I picked up an SMC Takumar 200mm/f4 to try out and just last week I ran across an early 8-element Super Takumar 50mm/f1.4 . Both of them are fun to shoot with and I'm looking forward to expanding the MF lens collection.

Using the old Takumars fitted to modern DSLRs takes me back to when I was a kid and my Dad gave me his old Spotmatic that he got in the 60's when he was in the military. The old lenses still turn out some great pics.

Shot this last night hand held on my 50D using the SMC Tak 200mm/f4 lens. Cropped just a little bit, not quite 100% but in my opinion still a pretty good shot for a 40-45 year old lens.

Now I'm thinking about something in the 400-500mm range.

I have in my care a pentax SP1000, the 55mm f/2 lens it came with is a heck of a lot easier to focus than the nifty fifty by a good margine. i have some black and white film in that old girl. time to go out an play i think. then i just gotta put together a kit to develop the film


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Apr 15, 2011 09:52 as a reply to  @ post 12225984 |  #17

JimmyJam,

Here's the thread to post your pictures with MF lenses.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=644277




  
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Apr 16, 2011 04:26 |  #18

I use a 50mm 1.4 SMC Takumar. Stopped down, imo is much better than Canon's EF 50mm 1.4.

Only annoying thing is that it overexposes by 2 stop at wide open and by 1 stop at other apertures.
I wonder if this is normal...

On another note, what method/technique/focus​ing screen do you guys use to help with manual focusing?




  
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Apr 16, 2011 06:16 |  #19

rchr wrote in post #12232586 (external link)
I use a 50mm 1.4 SMC Takumar. Stopped down, imo is much better than Canon's EF 50mm 1.4.

Only annoying thing is that it overexposes by 2 stop at wide open and by 1 stop at other apertures.
I wonder if this is normal...

On another note, what method/technique/focus​ing screen do you guys use to help with manual focusing?

Depends on the body. For a 5D or 5D2, you'd want the Ee-S or Eg-S, respectively. Manual focusing on a crop body is usually a bit more difficult due to smaller viewfinder (with the exception of the 7D). Depending on the crop body model, Canon and some aftermarket screens (Katzeye, etc) are available. Not sure if the 7D can handle interchangeable screens.


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Apr 16, 2011 08:09 |  #20

5dc and 5d2 might have a mirror clearance issue with Pentax SMC Takumar 50mm 1.4. Not a problem with any of the crop sensor DSLR bodies.

I did try to MF by eyes on both crop (50D) and FF (5d2) before. Both are really difficult. Most relie on AF confirmation chip and live view now. Can't put on a Ee-S because it might get too dark for my other lenses.


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Apr 16, 2011 09:15 |  #21

I use manual focus lenses and one of my favorites is an old Takumar 135 3.5 - pre super takumar. This is an older preset and is perfect for hiking and landscapes. It is about the size of a salt shaker.

Not sure about the rest of you, but landscapes for me are with early or late light, on a tripod and stopped down. So automation as in auto focus really does not go to far under these situations.

I think manual focus prime lenses (from Pentax, Nikkor, Contax/Yashica) are an inexpensive way to have several excellent choices and have worked for me on slow to non moving subjects.

This was taken at the San Diego Zoo with a Nikkor 105 2.5 AI lens a few weeks ago. This is also a favorite portrait lens for me.

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Apr 16, 2011 15:55 |  #22

rchr wrote in post #12232586 (external link)
I use a 50mm 1.4 SMC Takumar. Stopped down, imo is much better than Canon's EF 50mm 1.4.

Only annoying thing is that it overexposes by 2 stop at wide open and by 1 stop at other apertures.
I wonder if this is normal...

On another note, what method/technique/focus​ing screen do you guys use to help with manual focusing?

I had an EF-D screen (the one with the gridlines) on my 50D but I switched to an EF-S precision focusing screen a few days ago and the performance is much better with the MF lenses. If I stop down to f/5.6 or more the viewfinder is noticeably darker, but I feel that as long as I am shooting in a well lit area its not a show-stopper. Worst case scenario, if I know I'm not going to shoot with my MF lenses I can swap focusing screens as necessary since it takes about a minute total to do.


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Aug 19, 2017 20:20 |  #25

les_au wrote in post #12226475 (external link)
matthew1371 wrote in post #12225984 (external link)
About a month ago I picked up an SMC Takumar 200mm/f4 to try out and just last week I ran across an early 8-element Super Takumar 50mm/f1.4 . Both of them are fun to shoot with and I'm looking forward to expanding the MF lens collection.

Using the old Takumars fitted to modern DSLRs takes me back to when I was a kid and my Dad gave me his old Spotmatic that he got in the 60's when he was in the military. The old lenses still turn out some great pics.

Shot this last night hand held on my 50D using the SMC Tak 200mm/f4 lens. Cropped just a little bit, not quite 100% but in my opinion still a pretty good shot for a 40-45 year old lens.

Now I'm thinking about something in the 400-500mm range.

I have in my care a pentax SP1000, the 55mm f/2 lens it came with is a heck of a lot easier to focus than the nifty fifty by a good margine. i have some black and white film in that old girl. time to go out an play i think. then i just gotta put together a kit to develop the film

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Aug 20, 2017 12:00 |  #26

rchr wrote in post #12232586 (external link)
I use a 50mm 1.4 SMC Takumar. Stopped down, imo is much better than Canon's EF 50mm 1.4.

Only annoying thing is that it overexposes by 2 stop at wide open and by 1 stop at other apertures.
I wonder if this is normal...

The Canon dSLR meter is often wrong in using un-electronicallyconnecte​d lenses. This may (or may not) be fixed by using a 'chipped mount adapter' with the lens.

I have tested four or five lenses, all manual focus, using multiple Olympus lenses, chipped and unchipped adapters as well as more than one brand of aftermarket lens (with OM mount), and each behaves a bit differently in metering. I have found that the closest (but still NOT absolutely right) to accurate exposure is done when stopping down the lens to f/4...and SOME lenses progressively underexpose by greater differential but SOME others cause progressive OVERexposure differential as you stop down! And what happens with one model Canon dSLR can indeed be different than what happens with another model of Canon!

https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=14450413&po​stcount=12

rchr wrote in post #12232586 (external link)
On another note, what method/technique/focus​ing screen do you guys use to help with manual focusing?

Generally, if you use the Canon E(x)-S appropriate to your camera, you are better able to manual focus with greater precision in the viewfinder, but this generally works best if the max aperture of the lens in use is f/2.8


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Aug 20, 2017 12:14 |  #27

Anybody using the takumar 1:1.8 85mm on a 5dmrkii? I would like to see some portraits of this combo.




  
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Aug 23, 2017 03:40 |  #28

When it comes to the longer MF lenses, in the f/4 - f/5.6 or slower ranges you will actually do better focusing with the standard focus screen, without aids, since they are optimised for f/4 and slower anyway. The precision screens really only work well when you are using them with f/2.8 or faster lenses.

Of course this is pretty much mute anyway, now that Canon seem to have the fixed screens with fancy LED illunination in all of their current bodies.

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