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Sep 12, 2017 08:13 |  #1

I've seen numerous Facebook posts by home builders with "tours" from this camera (external link). Wondering if anybody has any experience with it? The photos and tour look great. Good white balance, good dynamic range, but not overdone either.

Here's an example tour of a home. I've previously shot this same home with standard photos so was surprised to see this tour:
https://my.matterport.​com/show/?m=WJt2sHd2cw​W (external link)

It's fairly expensive, and there's a monthly cost involved, but these tours and 3D panoramas are great for listings. These are the best that I've seen...


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Sep 22, 2017 16:47 |  #2

I produce 3D tours via Real.Vision. Similar results, but instead of the dollhouse model you get a highly detailed floor plan. Equipment is a Canon camera along with a fisheye lens (Canon or Sigma) and a panoramic head ($300).
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Oct 05, 2017 20:27 |  #3

Hmm. The locations in that tour aren't 3D. They're just 360 panos. The model of the entire house with the cutaways is 3D, but as you move around the actual house you're basically just switching between spherical panos. That aint 3D. If it was 3D you'd be able to move around the locations in first person like a game!

You can make 360 tours like this with a DSLR or even simpler, a cheap 360 cam like a Samsung Gear. If you want a cheap solution to 3D scanning, then take a squiz at Agisoft Photoscan.

Here's a brief tour knocked together quickly from Samsung Gear pics. You can add hotspot navigation points, information, videos etc to locations:

http://tdu.massey.ac.n​z/scott/waterfront/ (external link)

Here's a work in progress done using stitched images from a 7D2:

http://tdu.massey.ac.n​z …/geog_trip/fiel​dtrip.html (external link)

If you really want to get into 3D scanning, that too can be done with a regular camera. Check out Agisoft Photoscan. This one was done using a 7D2 and 50mm macro:

https://skfb.ly/68tFr (external link)


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Oct 13, 2017 14:17 |  #4

Spacemunkie wrote in post #18466872 (external link)
Hmm. The locations in that tour aren't 3D. They're just 360 panos. The model of the entire house with the cutaways is 3D, but as you move around the actual house you're basically just switching between spherical panos. That aint 3D. If it was 3D you'd be able to move around the locations in first person like a game!

You can make 360 tours like this with a DSLR or even simpler, a cheap 360 cam like a Samsung Gear. If you want a cheap solution to 3D scanning, then take a squiz at Agisoft Photoscan.

Here's a brief tour knocked together quickly from Samsung Gear pics. You can add hotspot navigation points, information, videos etc to locations:

http://tdu.massey.ac.n​z/scott/waterfront/ (external link)

Here's a work in progress done using stitched images from a 7D2:

http://tdu.massey.ac.n​z …/geog_trip/fiel​dtrip.html (external link)

If you really want to get into 3D scanning, that too can be done with a regular camera. Check out Agisoft Photoscan. This one was done using a 7D2 and 50mm macro:

https://skfb.ly/68tFr (external link)

The Matterport is in fact 3D and uses laser scanning to generate the model. Take a look at the blue mouse "pointer circle" and you'll notice it aligns to every surface, furniture included. I speak from experience as I've got a Matterport unit. Can also generate full floor plans within 1/4" accuracy. Cool bit of kit but photos are nowhere NEAR what a professional can achieve with a professional DSLR and lighting setup. If anything it's a complimentary system but definitely not a replacement.


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Nov 10, 2017 01:02 |  #5

evo5ive wrote in post #18472007 (external link)
The Matterport is in fact 3D and uses laser scanning to generate the model.

I think that Spacemunkie meant real-time 3D - as in a 3D environment that you can walk around freely, like Call of Duty or Quake, rather than just moving between hotspots that show a 3D/360 view.


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Nov 11, 2017 11:41 |  #6

evo5ive wrote in post #18472007 (external link)
The Matterport is in fact 3D and uses laser scanning to generate the model. Take a look at the blue mouse "pointer circle" and you'll notice it aligns to every surface, furniture included. I speak from experience as I've got a Matterport unit. Can also generate full floor plans within 1/4" accuracy. Cool bit of kit but photos are nowhere NEAR what a professional can achieve with a professional DSLR and lighting setup. If anything it's a complimentary system but definitely not a replacement.

Business-wise, does the Matterport system generate more income than its cost? What is your price point for a Matterport house shoot?




  
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Nov 28, 2017 09:49 as a reply to  @ Scott Spellman's post |  #7

I'd like to know this as well. Also, what are the monthly costs? This is a bigger concern than the up-front cost.


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Nov 28, 2017 21:27 |  #8

I work with a Matterport camera, I've owned one before and now work with the newer pro2 that's given to me by one of my clients. After you buy the camera you need a subscription to do anything with it, it starts at $50/month for the basic option, you get 3 free models processed per month and I think about 100 models hosted at a given time, the subscription packages scales up depending on how much business you're doing. I think rather than selling it on its's own, I found it much easier to just add it as a somewhat inexpensive add-on to clients who are already using you for still photos. Most agents i've talked to can definitely see $200 - $300 of value out of this and once I got the hang of using the system I could knock out a 3000sq-ft home in like a little over an hour. Some people sell this service for like $300-$500 but I didn't have any success there myself.


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Dec 03, 2017 06:13 as a reply to  @ joooowan's post |  #9

Yep, agree 100%. On its own I'm not sure how successful it would be but as an add-on when I'm already doing photography and/or videography of a property then it's a decent sell.


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Dec 15, 2017 01:19 |  #10

Dan Marchant wrote in post #18493166 (external link)
I think that Spacemunkie meant real-time 3D - as in a 3D environment that you can walk around freely, like Call of Duty or Quake, rather than just moving between hotspots that show a 3D/360 view.

Precisely! The opening view of the entire house is 3D, but the zoom-into-room views are 360 images. A 2D equirectangular image wrapped around a sphere ain’t ever going to be 3D. If those views were 3D you’d be able to move around and see behind stuff...


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Jan 02, 2018 07:21 |  #11

It's like Google Earth for your house...


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Jan 09, 2018 09:05 |  #12

joooowan wrote in post #18506361 (external link)
I work with a Matterport camera, I've owned one before and now work with the newer pro2 that's given to me by one of my clients. After you buy the camera you need a subscription to do anything with it, it starts at $50/month for the basic option, you get 3 free models processed per month and I think about 100 models hosted at a given time, the subscription packages scales up depending on how much business you're doing. I think rather than selling it on its's own, I found it much easier to just add it as a somewhat inexpensive add-on to clients who are already using you for still photos. Most agents i've talked to can definitely see $200 - $300 of value out of this and once I got the hang of using the system I could knock out a 3000sq-ft home in like a little over an hour. Some people sell this service for like $300-$500 but I didn't have any success there myself.

Hi,
How far apart are your scans?
3000sqft takes me several hours, perhaps because I do more scans per room, or maybe your newer model does a quicker job.


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Jan 17, 2018 00:21 |  #13

nathancarter wrote in post #18537020 (external link)
Hi,
How far apart are your scans?
3000sqft takes me several hours, perhaps because I do more scans per room, or maybe your newer model does a quicker job.

newer model doesn't actually work faster (what a let-down that was). Although the latest update it alerted me of an option for the camera to "spin faster" but I couldn't find it in the settings menu.

How far apart... as far apart as I can while still makes sense to walk through a room without seeming like the viewer just took a leap or is doing babysteps, so usually ~1 to 2 scans on small bedrooms, a living room might be about 3-6 scans. Stairs I try to scan every 4-5 steps.


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