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Sep 11, 2017 16:42 |  #6646

I sent mine in twice. First for the same issue you had. Second time, even after MFA it just seemed like I had to push sharpening in PP too much to get pleasing results. I'm pretty happy with it now. It can tend to miss from time to time but my keeper rate is very good.


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Sep 11, 2017 16:42 |  #6647

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I had my eyes on the 1DX II. I really wanted it. Even joined CPS for the rebate but decided I could not justify it. Besides I never liked grips or grip shaped bodies but would have adapted.

Have you ever held a 1D camera? They feel completely different that another model with a grip. They feel hmmmmmmmmm just right, at least to me. I just got a used 6Dc. I added the grip and it feels more natural to me than the bare camera..... but it doesn't feel like my 1D IV.

I loved my first 7D2...until it stopped working properly. The details are here on POTN, I don't bore you with them again. Had it performed the way it started out, I never would have bought the 1D IV.


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Sep 11, 2017 16:56 |  #6648

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Have you ever held a 1D camera? They feel completely different that another model with a grip. They feel hmmmmmmmmm just right, at least to me. I just got a used 6Dc. I added the grip and it feels more natural to me than the bare camera..... but it doesn't feel like my 1D IV.

I loved my first 7D2...until it stopped working properly. The details are here on POTN, I don't bore you with them again. Had it performed the way it started out, I never would have bought the 1D IV.

I have to admit I have not. Many years ago I had a Minolta with a grip and could never get used to it. Maybe I'll head down to the local mom and pop shop and try it out. It does scare me. I'll leave the credit card at home.


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Sep 11, 2017 16:57 |  #6649

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You get fabulous shots with your 7D2, Jeff. I got some good ones too, but I kept missing shots that I didn't think should have been missed. My wife and I are retirees in a modest retirement. Yes, we have some camera gear, but we don't have a boat, motorhome, sports car, time share, etc. ;-)a

BTW - here's one of my good shots with the 7D2 + 1.4x III + 100-400 II. If they all came out like this, I would still have the 7D2.

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I know its what I would love to shoot, I almost jumped on the MedicineMan's back a few weeks ago when he but it up for sale. I must say I do get long strings of in focus images. Sometimes to many as I keep everything. I would love to try the 1DxII.. I'm sure I would never give it back.

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Sep 11, 2017 17:06 |  #6650

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Sep 11, 2017 17:17 |  #6651

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AI Servo tracks the motion of the subject and calculates where it will be when the shutter fires. So if the motion is steady, the subject should be in focus.



Interesting. Maybe too geeky for this thread, but I wonder how many shots it takes for the algorithm to determine the anticipated point of focus. Two would tell it the direction of travel and speed, but only if speed were constant. If the the subject were accelerating or decelerating I'm guessing it would need at lest three and possibly more. Just wondering whether it factors in acceleration or not.



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Sep 11, 2017 18:03 |  #6652

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Interesting. Maybe too geeky for this thread, but I wonder how many shots it takes for the algorithm to determine the anticipated point of focus. Two would tell it the direction of travel and speed, but only if speed were constant. If the the subject were accelerating or decelerating I'm guessing it would need at lest three and possibly more. Just wondering whether it factors in acceleration or not.

Servo is constantly calculating as long as AF is active. It's not dependent on actually taking a shot. As a former computer programmer, I would love to see the algorithms and code that do the servo focusing. It is quite a feat.


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Sep 11, 2017 18:08 |  #6653

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I have to admit I have not. Many years ago I had a Minolta with a grip and could never get used to it. Maybe I'll head down to the local mom and pop shop and try it out. It does scare me. I'll leave the credit card at home.

I hadn't use a grip prior to the 1DX2. I found it didn't matter to me. I still go back and forth between the 1DX2 and the un-gripped 5D4 and don't seem to favor either one in that regard.


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Sep 12, 2017 00:18 |  #6654

A young coyote this evening...

<---- this one has the rolling shutter of the 5dmkiv that some reviewers complain about. I added a slight amount of stabilization in Sony movie maker, but the heat shimmer and lack of a tripod made things go from bad to worse!!!


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Sep 12, 2017 06:06 |  #6655

Thanks a lot guys. After a night and there were tons of input. Can't reply all but I've read and try to apply your recommendations.

LJ3Jim wrote in post #18449604 (external link)
There's lots of good advice prior to my post here, and you should carefully consider it. That said, I had another experience. My 7D2 was always a finicky body. I could stand in my back yard and take three successive photos of a fence post. Sometimes two of them were identical, but more often all three were different. I spent a lot of time with test shots, different cases, MFA, etc. Nothing provided the consistency that I expected from that body.

Last summer I finally gave up and traded way up to the 1DX2. The difference is amazing. I can take that same fence post 100 times in a row, and all the photos will be the same. Focus is extremely reliable in the field as well. None of my lenses or my shooting techniques changed; the body made all the difference.

Prior to the 7D2, I also used a 60D and 70D. They were also very reliable within the limits of their capabilities. For me, the 7D2 was the one outlier in my Canon experience.

I've since added a 5D4. It seems as good as the 1DX2, but I haven't tested it much in the field under "action" conditions. The 14 fps of the 1DX2 is very addicting... :-)

Totally agree. 1DX2 is out of my reach, guess I just have to live with its imperfection and take more and more photos :-)

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Next time shut off Stabilization and use centre point.. It will show you just how much your bird is completely out of frame... remember those wings are only there 50%of the time. I think your not getting any good contrast in your subject shooting with the sun hitting you on the right side 90deg to the camera. Your success rate would have gone up if you would have used centre with helpers as zone needs a ton of subject in the viewfinder.. at least 50% coverage. zone is a complicated animal to master. and you cant trust that software to tell you exactly just where the AF points are really landing in real time. you can see when you did hit focus the subject was much larger in the viewfinder and better lit by the sun. shooting fast moving subjects in hi contrast light with varied back grounds is not for the faint of heart. using a single point forces you to become smoother and more precise in your swing. turning off image stabilization shows you just how smooth your not... and just how fast they really are. O and all the above is just my two cents..

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The 50% coverage requirement for zone AF... that's new to me. Thanks for the infor. Your pine marten is really nice :D




  
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Sep 12, 2017 06:13 |  #6656

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No matter what camera settings you choose, etc AF is all about contrast and we have no control over that. There is no fine tuning of that settings. Just where we place the AF point which is very difficult when BIF.

From Saturday. Not swallows but I quickly swung around and focused in the duck when I heard it start to move. This is with a 1.4 III. There was enough contrast to the cam to quickly focus.

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Thanks for the input. Will looking for more contrast next time I left home :-)

Also, I'm amazed how much you can crop and still get a lot of details from the full frame sensor...




  
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Thanks for the input. Will looking for more contrast next time I left home :-)

Also, I'm amazed how much you can crop and still get a lot of details from the full frame sensor...

I like pushing both my FF and Crop to the max. Bit a hobby for me.


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