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Sep 17, 2017 23:35 |  #1

Wanted to try 46" softliter that I had sitting for more than 6-7 years. It was a bit windy and this thing flipped inside out, the moment I opened it. The cover won't stay put. So packed it back and used bare bulb on my AD600 as I forgot to bring any reflector. Later in the evening wind was less so I decide to give softliter another try. Installed my extension head into it, moved it above model, and there was another wind gust and whole thing snapped in half. I just removed it, bent anything that hadn't snapped and threw in my car as there wasn't a trash can in sight. I have shot in the wind before but mostly my 37" SP Systems octa or Photoflex medium SB and no issues. This thing only made for gentle studio use IMHO.


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Sep 18, 2017 11:02 |  #2

Keyword is outside. I can't think of any umbrella that is going to handle outside windy conditions very well. I use umbrellas & brollies outside sometimes, but a good gust will turn even a strong umbrella inside out when it's big. It's a surface area thing.

I like my Softlighter II 60". They're great.

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Sep 18, 2017 11:43 |  #3

The front face cover also kept blowing off. Never had issues with my Photoflex 60" octabox. Sure it will turn on the lightstand spigot but it stays put. I need to modify my Kacey beauty dish for the bowen's mount so I can start using it with AD200/AD600.


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Sep 18, 2017 13:35 |  #4

I don't even bother with brollies outdoors anymore. Try deploying a Westcott 7' in a Saskatchewan breeze... not again, thanks.


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Sep 18, 2017 21:26 |  #5

I tend to use metal reflectors outdoors if there's a hint of a breeze. Elinchrom's MaxiLite seems to be the Goto in wind.

Here's the MaxiLite (aka fireball) 20 feet away.


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Sep 18, 2017 21:43 |  #6

bobbyz wrote in post #18454588 (external link)
Wanted to try 46" softliter that I had sitting for more than 6-7 years. It was a bit windy and this thing flipped inside out, the moment I opened it. The cover won't stay put. So packed it back and used bare bulb on my AD600 as I forgot to bring any reflector. Later in the evening wind was less so I decide to give softliter another try. Installed my extension head into it, moved it above model, and there was another wind gust and whole thing snapped in half. I just removed it, bent anything that hadn't snapped and threw in my car as there wasn't a trash can in sight. I have shot in the wind before but mostly my 37" SP Systems octa or Photoflex medium SB and no issues. This thing only made for gentle studio use IMHO.

I'm sorry you had that experience. I'm sure it was frustrating.

But your post got me wondering...what else is sitting unused in your closet? How about shipping it to me. I'll try it out, give you some recommendations about conditions under which it works well and I'll send it back to you, dust free, in six or seven years. You will have a better experience when you get around to using it, can enjoy the free closet space in the meantime and everyone will have had a better time.

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Sep 18, 2017 23:39 |  #7

^^ I think I am now just like a typical american with more stuff than they ever need.:-D

BTW - I did like the look of the bare flash. Will be using more reflectors and my beauty dish.


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Sep 19, 2017 01:30 |  #8

bobbyz wrote in post #18455461 (external link)
^^ I think I am now just like a typical american with more stuff than they ever need.:-D

BTW - I did like the look of the bare flash. Will be using more reflectors and my beauty dish.

I had the opportunity to create some images with an open flame last year and liked the results, which reminded me of the benefits of bare bulbs. :).

Reflectors outdoors are good. Mixed with ambient, contrastier lighting works well, since you can balance the ambient fill for a pleasing result.

I'll PM you my address to help with your over-acquisition syndrome. We'll have you looking more Canadian before the new year and positively Swiss by next Summer :).


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Sep 19, 2017 01:41 |  #9

Oh, I'll sandbag stands in studio too. Not just outside, all the time.


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Sep 19, 2017 08:21 |  #10

Angmo wrote in post #18455497 (external link)
Oh, I'll sandbag stands in studio too. Not just outside, all the time.

Me too. I teach whatever little I know at the studio we have at my work place and safety is most important, even with nicer mathews, avenger stands.


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Sep 19, 2017 08:29 |  #11

Here is a quick shot. I messed up as you see more sun on one of her legs. Wish I had some help and some screen to block off little bit of sun. But I kind of like the look. Nothing on the extension head, just bare bulb.

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Sep 19, 2017 09:36 |  #12

bobbyz wrote in post #18455656 (external link)
Here is a quick shot. I messed up as you see more sun on one of her legs. Wish I had some help and some screen to block off little bit of sun. But I kind of like the look. Nothing on the extension head, just bare bulb.

QUOTED IMAGE

I'm all about getting it right in camera to the extent possible.

But...that is a simple fix in post.


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Sep 19, 2017 14:59 |  #13

Any tips for LR user to easily fix it. I tried adjustment brush to pull down exposure.


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Sep 19, 2017 18:18 |  #14

bobbyz wrote in post #18455961 (external link)
Any tips for LR user to easily fix it. I tried adjustment brush to pull down exposure.

I would have expected that to work, but I stopped using LR in the period where the selective adjustment features were added. PS is my go-to for this adjustment, although I'm pretty certain I could knock it out quickly in Capture One with a layer and adv color selection.

Do you not have PS?


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Sep 19, 2017 18:20 |  #15

I do have CC which comes with PS. Just need to spend some time learning PS. Will try it. Thanks.


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