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Sep 28, 2017 06:35 |  #11281

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Sep 28, 2017 10:28 |  #11282

Pagman wrote in post #18461904 (external link)
Larry, I dont see any lack of sharpness in any of your photos, but I too have been discovering by adopting different editing skills - this can make a huge diference to the final image.

All the best.

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Thank you for your input. I posted these as the successful result of the experiment. I am still a bit tentative about my methods using the gimbal. One of the tests I should try is using the gimbal with a 300 mm and a 2x and with a 100-400.


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Sep 28, 2017 10:29 |  #11283

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #18461918 (external link)
A 150=600mm lens on a gimbal takes some getting used to, I think. My longest lens is the 400/5.6, but I sometimes take the 300/4 and make it a 600mm with the 2x extender and that is a very different lens than the 400mm. Most long lens tutorials say to put your hand on top of the lens and press your face against the camera as a way to reduce or rather absorb vibration with your body. Arthur Morris however, suggests supporting the lens from below as he considers it the better technique. Here's a link to his long lens tips: https://www.outdoorpho​tographer.com …lens-tips-and-techniques/ (external link)

Thank you for your input. I am still a bit tentative about my methods using the gimbal. One of the tests I should try is using the gimbal with a 300 mm and a 2x and with a 100-400. I will try those after I read the article you posted. I appreciate the help.


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Sep 28, 2017 10:38 |  #11284

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #18461918 (external link)
A 150=600mm lens on a gimbal takes some getting used to, I think. My longest lens is the 400/5.6, but I sometimes take the 300/4 and make it a 600mm with the 2x extender and that is a very different lens than the 400mm. Most long lens tutorials say to put your hand on top of the lens and press your face against the camera as a way to reduce or rather absorb vibration with your body. Arthur Morris however, suggests supporting the lens from below as he considers it the better technique. Here's a link to his long lens tips: https://www.outdoorpho​tographer.com …lens-tips-and-techniques/ (external link)

I recommend that everyone read the article. here is the link again, and again, thank you Levina

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Sep 28, 2017 11:10 |  #11285

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Sep 28, 2017 12:43 |  #11286

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Sep 28, 2017 12:51 |  #11287

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Unknown bird west side of Rocky Mountain National Park last week 1/2 mile from Timber Creek Campground-

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MM, your little sparrow is a Dark-eyed Junco, of the Gray-headed type, imho: https://www.allaboutbi​rds.org/guide/Dark-eyed_Junco/id (external link)

I love the colors you are getting from that Sony, btw.


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Sep 28, 2017 14:00 |  #11288

Bignerd wrote in post #18461884 (external link)
I have been running some experiments to deal with a lack of sharpness in my pictures. The issue at hand is working with a tamron 150-600mm which up until now has been very sharp. I have upgraded my mount to an aftermarket gimbal mount (sevenoaks gimbal). My first thought was that I was not getting good stability from the mount. I ran an experiment with the gimbal taking pictures of a power line in my back yard. I tried all combinations of iso, f stop (and shutter speed), and found the lens and gimbal to be tack sharp, down to a very low shutter speed.
I have reached the conclusion that when photographing birds in AI Servo mode, with multiple frames (very different from the power lines), the lens is slow to focus, and between shots there is enough misfocus to reduce the image quality. The other possibility is in AI servo mode, multiple frames, with my hand on the gimbal mount, I am introducing shake and reducing image quality.

I took these pictures at Baylands Park in Palo Alto. This is a marsh area, filled with water birds. There is also a small plane airport adjacent to the park that allowed me to work on panning with the planes coming in for landing. These pictures were all taken in single frame mode, some in AI servo, and some in single shot mode. My question is, has anybody else had this sort of challenge in achieving image quality?

Hello! I have a couple ideas for you, but I wanted to ask a couple of questions first please. I own both the G1 and G2 versions of the Tamron 150-600. Which version do you have? I ran into a similar situation with G1 when I moved to a gimbal mount. Haven't with the G2, but I think that's due to learning from my mistakes with the G1...
Also, have you done AFMA on the 150-600? I found that static subjetcs in Single Shot worked well, but my AI Servo stuff was better after AFMA... Odd, but it made a difference.



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Sep 28, 2017 15:03 |  #11289

Mr. Turkey of Zion National Park who gobble-gobbled across a bridge I was trying to do a long exposure on and then continued on down the trail:

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Sep 28, 2017 15:27 |  #11290

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Sep 28, 2017 20:02 |  #11291

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Wow! Great shot!

Thanks! Amazing what you can do shooting out the passenger window of my van :-D


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Sep 28, 2017 20:45 |  #11292

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Mr. Turkey of Zion National Park who gobble-gobbled across a bridge I was trying to do a long exposure on and then continued on down the trail:

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Well executed! They wouldn't let me get that close when I was there! That in the field by the "lodge" deal they have there?




  
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Sep 29, 2017 03:18 |  #11293

He may only be small, he may be very common, but hes got a big appetite. Blue tit sitting on a wet red apple. The small birds are tricky, you need to get pretty close shot for the detail to show.


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Sep 29, 2017 04:52 as a reply to  @ vasher's post |  #11294

Beautiful lighting on this turkey!


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