Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre General Photography Talk 
Thread started 12 Oct 2017 (Thursday) 03:27
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Finally Digitizing my Slide/Negative archives..any hints/tips/experiences to share?

 
EOSAddict
Book Committee Immortal
Avatar
6,088 posts
Likes: 15
Joined Apr 2005
Location: Preston, Lancashire, England
     
Oct 12, 2017 03:27 |  #1

Having been taking slides since I was 10 years old and only going Digital at the age of 34 I have several thousand slides and negatives that have been sat unseen in the attic for years. A few months I bought an Epson V800 scanner and have started the long process of scanning all my analogue back catalogue!!!

So far it's been a slow process of learning by trial and error (eg 6 boxes scanned with the slide holder on the wrong height setting.. grrr!) but also one of fasination and revelation at seeing images that haven't seen the light of day for 20+ years in some cases!

Anyone got any experiences of doing similar to share - and any hints/tips to share too?

Look forward to hearing and I'll share a couple of images when I can


Al
My Gear, My Website: www.endofthetrailphoto​graphy.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
Left ­ Handed ­ Brisket
That's my line!
Avatar
8,473 posts
Gallery: 10 photos
Likes: 1698
Joined Jun 2011
Location: The Uwharrie Mts, NC
     
Oct 12, 2017 03:34 |  #2

Are you scanning emulsion "up" or "down"?

It's been too long since I've done any scanning, but it makes a subtle difference. I think you want e up, or away from the light.


PSA: The above post may contain sarcasm, reply at your own risk | Not in gear database: Auto Sears 50mm 2.0 / 3x CL-360, Nikon SB-28, SunPak auto 322 D, Minolta 20

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EOSAddict
THREAD ­ STARTER
Book Committee Immortal
Avatar
6,088 posts
Likes: 15
Joined Apr 2005
Location: Preston, Lancashire, England
     
Oct 12, 2017 03:44 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #3

I'm scanning the slides face down to the scanner bed ... no real issues with the quailty of the scans.. I'm scanning as much to enjoy them as to replace the slides so am scanning to JPG to save on space, rather than TIFF.... scanning at the v800 native resolution of 4800 dpi is giving good results now I'veplayed around with the settings. I'm scanning in batches of 12 using auto settings for USM and SRD.

Are you saying I might get better by scanning face up and flipping them in LR?


Al
My Gear, My Website: www.endofthetrailphoto​graphy.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Left ­ Handed ­ Brisket
That's my line!
Avatar
8,473 posts
Gallery: 10 photos
Likes: 1698
Joined Jun 2011
Location: The Uwharrie Mts, NC
     
Oct 12, 2017 04:11 |  #4

EOSAddict wrote in post #18470927 (external link)
Are you saying I might get better by scanning face up and flipping them in LR?

Doing it one way vs the other did seem to make a difference but I can't remember which way was better.

Let me get some more coffee in me and it might come to me.


PSA: The above post may contain sarcasm, reply at your own risk | Not in gear database: Auto Sears 50mm 2.0 / 3x CL-360, Nikon SB-28, SunPak auto 322 D, Minolta 20

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Lyn2011
Senior Member
505 posts
Gallery: 124 photos
Likes: 551
Joined Dec 2011
Location: Australia
     
Oct 12, 2017 05:12 |  #5

I've scanned my slides a couple of years ago. I used a Reflecta filmscanner, also sold as Braun . It works as a projector, that is the slides are in a tray and the scanner works the whole tray (36 slides). I used Vuescan software. For info about the scanners www.filmscanner.info (external link) and the software Vuescan at www.hamrick.com (external link).
I'm happy with the results.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EOSAddict
THREAD ­ STARTER
Book Committee Immortal
Avatar
6,088 posts
Likes: 15
Joined Apr 2005
Location: Preston, Lancashire, England
     
Oct 12, 2017 05:18 as a reply to  @ Lyn2011's post |  #6

The v800 is a flatbed scanner but has a second light in the lid to get proper transparency scanning @ 4800 dpi. I'm sing Silverfast software which seems to be doing the job. Had some issues with scratch removal on Kodachrome so had to turn it off (found out later its an issue with Koda emulsions).


Al
My Gear, My Website: www.endofthetrailphoto​graphy.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EOSAddict
THREAD ­ STARTER
Book Committee Immortal
Avatar
6,088 posts
Likes: 15
Joined Apr 2005
Location: Preston, Lancashire, England
Post edited 9 months ago by EOSAddict.
     
Oct 12, 2017 06:11 |  #7

Here's one fresh off the scanner from 1992 with just the white/black points and WB adjusted in LR

Aletsch Glacier, Bernese Oberland, Switzerland

IMAGE: https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wxGqhQX/0/ebd72866/XL/i-wxGqhQX-XL.jpg

Al
My Gear, My Website: www.endofthetrailphoto​graphy.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Left ­ Handed ­ Brisket
That's my line!
Avatar
8,473 posts
Gallery: 10 photos
Likes: 1698
Joined Jun 2011
Location: The Uwharrie Mts, NC
Post edited 9 months ago by Left Handed Brisket.
     
Oct 12, 2017 06:46 |  #8

that's a good looking scan, and shot.

after a few cups of strong, cheap coffee i was thinking that emulsion down (nearest the CCD) was the way to go. A few searches seemed to confirm my faded memory. Essentially, the emulsion being the color layer would be best represented if the colors did not have to pass through the film base.

probably a subtle difference but one that might be worth looking into.


PSA: The above post may contain sarcasm, reply at your own risk | Not in gear database: Auto Sears 50mm 2.0 / 3x CL-360, Nikon SB-28, SunPak auto 322 D, Minolta 20

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
saea501
... spilled over a little on the panties
Avatar
6,270 posts
Gallery: 42 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 6187
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Florida
     
Oct 12, 2017 07:35 |  #9

I've scanned hundreds of slides and negatives with the Canon 8800F with great results. It's surprising how good stuff looks from 40 to 60 years ago. My old Nikon film cameras must have been pretty good.

Only problem that I ran into was removing dirt and scratches after scanning, pretty time consuming. A good noise reduction program works great on film grain.


Remember what the DorMouse said.....feed your head.
Bob
https://www.flickr.com …282@N06/with/38​203470844/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
gjl711
According to the lazy TF, My flatulence rates
Avatar
54,244 posts
Likes: 1633
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
     
Oct 12, 2017 08:09 |  #10

I have become my familie's defacto archivist and have over the years compiles thousands (if not 10s of thousands) of slides, negatives, pictures. For the slides and negatives I started using a flatbed but it was such a slow laborious process that I switched to using my 5DII and the 100mm macro lens. I started with a light table and tripod setup similar to this (external link). I have since hacked together a copy adapter that screws into the front of my 100mm macro lens similar to this (external link) one by Opteka. It's much faster, a few seconds per image, and the quality is as good if not better than the flatbed.

IMAGE: https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4225/34087372613_77e30f0985_b.jpg

IMAGE: https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5719/22412616796_e4ea8c3246_b.jpg

Not sure why, but call me JJ.
I used to hate math but then I realised decimals have a point.
.
::Flickr:: (external link)
::Gear::

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
40,241 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 2040
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
     
Oct 12, 2017 17:50 |  #11

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18470975 (external link)
i was thinking that emulsion down (nearest the CCD) was the way to go. A few searches seemed to confirm my faded memory. Essentially, the emulsion being the color layer would be best represented if the colors did not have to pass through the film base..

But consider that flatbed scanner software is set up for taking a rightreading image against the glass, to scan for photocopy or PDF or color print JPG, so it makes a lot of sense that the color transparency also be right reading as seen by the CCD., and the edge frame numbers are seen (by the CCD) as right-reading also, so emulsion is away from the CCD


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
KeithS
Member
244 posts
Gallery: 13 photos
Likes: 79
Joined Jul 2009
Location: Arizona
     
Oct 12, 2017 17:57 |  #12

I scanned a couple of thousand slides and negatives over a couple of years. I used a flat bed scanner. I used high resolution and saved to .tif when I thought appropriate. I found that slides, generally, did not seem as good as they seemed to looked projected. And quite a few of 30 year old color negatives had a significant green tint. So don't tarry.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
embdude
Goldmember
Avatar
1,018 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 7
Joined May 2005
Location: California
     
Oct 13, 2017 00:41 |  #13

I can offer some tips to clean up dust and scratches...

I use a simple technique to quickly clean up white dust and scratches.

In Photoshop I make a duplicate layer.
Next select: Filter --> Noise --> Dust & Scratches.
-- I choose a radius of 16 and a Threshold of 5.

Next change the current layer from Normal to Darken.

Next chose - Add Layer Mask, and fill it with black.
-- Now you can use a white paintbrush to quickly paint out the dust and scratches while keeping the details intact!

For dark spots or scratches I use the same technique I use for dusting white scratches from scanned negatives, the only difference is the layer is set to lighten, so now we are dusting away the black dirt and spots.

In Photoshop I make a duplicate layer.
Next select: Filter --> Noise --> Dust & Scratches.
-- I choose a radius of 16 and a Threshold of 5.

Next change the current layer from Normal to lighten.

Next chose - Add Layer Mask, and fill it with black.
-- Now you can use a white paintbrush to quickly paint out the dust and scratches while keeping the details intact!


-Chris
NEW: Photo Blog (external link)/ My Classic Cameras (external link) / Toys: Gear Sig...
Canon PDF's for EOS Digital Cameras (external link)
Free Photo Stuff Blog (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
embdude
Goldmember
Avatar
1,018 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 7
Joined May 2005
Location: California
Post edited 9 months ago by embdude.
     
Oct 13, 2017 00:52 |  #14

IMAGE: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1556/26440284781_bf45d840f2_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://www.flickr.com …781/in/datepost​ed-public/  (external link)
Contraption (external link) by C Canon (external link) on Flickr

My digital slide-inator

My goal: Scan thousands of slides quickly and maintain a decent level of quality.

Discussion thread: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1487494

I don't want to hijack this one :-)

-Chris
NEW: Photo Blog (external link)/ My Classic Cameras (external link) / Toys: Gear Sig...
Canon PDF's for EOS Digital Cameras (external link)
Free Photo Stuff Blog (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BigAl007
Cream of the Crop
7,720 posts
Gallery: 526 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 1483
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Repps cum Bastwick, Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, UK.
     
Oct 13, 2017 07:24 |  #15

Chris all you need now is an Arduino to cycle the slide projector, and then fire the camera for you. Or does the system need refocusing for every slide? I never used to have any focus issues between slide when projecting on a large screen, but I could see that slide location in the gate can be a problem. If you don't need to refocus between slides an arduino would probably allow you to scan the whole magazine at not much less than the maximum cycle speed of the projector, so you could probably do a magazine in a couple of minutes, without any intervention by you.

Alan


My Flickr (external link)
My new Aviation images blog site (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

5,030 views & 2 likes for this thread
Finally Digitizing my Slide/Negative archives..any hints/tips/experiences to share?
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre General Photography Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is zack33
499 guests, 359 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6430, that happened on Dec 03, 2017

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.