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Oct 14, 2017 19:39 |  #6841

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I used to spend hours trying to fine tune the lenses by taking pictures and comparing them in print or on the screen. Then I learned about DotTune, which improved the focus, but I still was not happy. Finally I bought FoCal, a Pro version needed for TC’s, and it did a marvelous job in minutes for each of my cameras and lenses. Compared to what one has already spent so on expensive lenses and cameras, the cost of the software is really minimal.

Yeah, I've used them all (DotTune, moire screen, Focal, batteries, etc), and for anything I can MFA in my house, Focal has proven to be the most reliable. Longer than 200mm though, and things get interesting due to the amount of working space needed, getting a good focus chart aligned, and finding good enough light to shoot in. This past spring I set up a basketball in long grass to MFA my 100-400, 400 DOII and extenders. Now I have a 500 that I've never done accurate MFA with, but I've taken enough shots to where I could see a pattern of focus being slightly off, and I've gotten it spot-on now. haha Even after all of that, it's trial and error, tons of photos having been taken and examined. After a while, small adjustments made to get zone of focus perfect.

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Oct 14, 2017 19:40 |  #6842

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Oct 14, 2017 23:09 |  #6843

I too have tried a lot of things for fine-tuning my lenses... and I settled on FoCal. It has worked the best for me, and it even helped tune my Tamron 150-600's (G1 and G2). Way better results now! It's amazing to me that I waited as long as I did to buy FoCal. It was worth the money. And to tune the long lenses I set up a target in the yard on a cloudless day, then used our dogs' laser to help align the target... worked well

I think finding the method that works best for each person is trial and error. But it does seem to be worth it to fine tune the lenses.



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Oct 15, 2017 00:53 |  #6844

Double Trouble - (Antipodean) spring is in the air for these two fledgling Powerful Owls that have just left the nest in the past couple of days.

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Oct 15, 2017 02:26 |  #6845

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I would not go by things you read about it in the past. It was new and there were people using improper lighting and was too weak. FoCal made improvements requiring less light. You really needed to light it up back then.

I tried it a long time ago only to confirm my new 70-200 2.8 II was out to lunch which I sent to Canon service. I found it a tad wishy washy but I did keep up to their blogs. They put a lot of effort into accuracy and consistency. I upgraded it after getting my 100-400 II.

I can't believe I'm promoting it as I rarely do for 3rd party software. Under consistent testing conditions I have found it accurate and repeatable and I'm picky about MFA. I don't want to mislead anyone but if you have read any of my posts about MFA in general I have said lot of negative things to say about it.

I don't know if there is a money back guarantee for it but I'd check.


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This pretty much sums up my situation. I had very good results with all my lenses without a TC, but there was something "not quite there" with the 100-400II and 1.4x TC III. That's what made me eventually buy FoCal. After using it on this combo, I see practically no difference between the naked lens and the one with the TC. That alone was worth the price of FoCal.

And just because I have it, I ran FoCal on most of the other lenses and cameras. Most of them needed none or very insignificant adjustment, except for the 70-200 f/4 IS with Canon 1.4x TC II that the wife uses with her 6D. That did require a little bit more.

As I said before - when one has a camera that cost $1500-$3000, and a lens for $1000-$2000, the cost of software is really minimal, but the result may be very satisfying.

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That has been my view. I remember at work I used to get a hard time because I'd drop $150 on a pair of Red Wing work shoes. I was concrete for 12 hours. This was 30 years ago and other guys wore $10 runners so they had beer money for the weekend. They always had sore feet.

I have wasted far more than the price of FoCal on stupid things from time to time. Add the camera and lens you can double the cost you posted. Then again there are members who do well with batteries or home made lens align kits. Whatever works for you.

Thank you..... I'm giving it some thought....

Jeff, thank you as well.... enjoy your new boots when you finally get them broken in. ;)


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Oct 15, 2017 20:16 |  #6846

Wife found a Northern Rough Green Snake along the Potomac River today. Watching a snake climb a tree is quite mesmerizing...

I love the 80D, but when in Auto-ISO it is annoyingly quick to ramp up to 3200 or 6400 in real short order, even in super bright day light. I have -1 EC dialed in, yet it still insists on turning my photos to mush :-( So when using the 1.4x on the 100-400, I have to be really watchful of this, or I just switch to the 5D4.


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Oct 15, 2017 20:27 |  #6847

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I found the only way I was satisfied was to shoot fur and adjust... no software required. and I have a $500 pair of boots still in the box.. prob take them back and wear the $100 boots..

Bare lens.... What do you get at the end of a yawn lol
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Oct 15, 2017 20:35 |  #6848

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Are these critters curios? Do they get close? Awesome shots!


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Oct 15, 2017 20:38 |  #6849

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lol too funny


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Oct 15, 2017 20:49 |  #6850

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Are these critters curios? Do they get close? Awesome shots!

honestly their so fast and on the move its hard to tell if their curios but maybe a little at times. Thanks


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LMAO you guys are funny... ..A natural Progression


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Oct 16, 2017 08:20 |  #6854

I like the content and satisfied look...


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Oct 16, 2017 22:33 |  #6855

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Okay Jeff - I know how this should work... You can choose your avatar per quote or post. Use the one that most represents your feeling at the time. Just imagine - the first one for when that annoying photog steps in front of you right at the moment you wanted to take a pic... and the last one for when that photog steps in front of you at the exact moment you were going to take a pic of an angry moose - who then stepped on that annoying photog!



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