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Oct 21, 2017 12:05 |  #1

Please can I have some education? :)

Using Photoshop CC I'm trying to edit the background in this photo using my normal workflow:

Quick selection tool with default brush size 15 and auto-enhance on
Drag over the subject as well as possible
Use Refine Edge to tidy up detail such as hair
Paint the background with a large brush set to Mode Normal, Opacity 61% and Flow 100%

The problem I have is no matter how carefully I try, at some point whilst quick selecting over the boy's left torso (as seen on the screen) I find that everything from there to the left hand edge of the image is selected, background included. How to stop this happening please?

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Oct 21, 2017 12:20 |  #2

Press the ALT key and paint over the wall next to his arm to deselect the wall, and move the selection "ants" over to his arm.
You may need to zoom in and make the cursor smaller to fine tune it.




  
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Oct 21, 2017 12:25 |  #3

Charlie Victor wrote in post #18477579 (external link)
Please can I have some education? :)

Using Photoshop CC I'm trying to edit the background in this photo using my normal workflow:

I find that everything from there to the left hand edge of the image is selected, background included. How to stop this happening please?

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I do not have latest ver of photoshop ... but you can usually switch between selecting or de-selecting by holding the ALT key.

Another words, when it selects an area you do not want ... hold down the ALT key and pass it over the unwanted section to de-select.




  
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Oct 21, 2017 12:30 as a reply to  @ lacogada's post |  #4

Thank you each, Merlin_AZ and lacogada. I've been using the ALT key and painting over the background all afternoon (so it seems!) but when I do, selection still doesn't snap to the edge of the shirt; it snaps to random parts of the heavy pattern. I end up chasing those bloody marching ants round and round in circles! I'll try zooming in and with a smaller selection brush as suggested. Stand by!


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Oct 21, 2017 12:38 |  #5

Merlin_AZ wrote in post #18477593 (external link)
Press the ALT key and paint over the wall next to his arm to deselect the wall, and move the selection "ants" over to his arm.
You may need to zoom in and make the cursor smaller to fine tune it.

Or you might try using the Polygonal Lasso Tool. This might help is you haven't used it before: Selecting areas in PS.


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Oct 21, 2017 13:41 |  #6

Charlie Victor wrote in post #18477597 (external link)
I end up chasing those bloody marching ants round and round in circles!

:-)

You can also use the " Q " key to toggle quick mask mode. It will give you a quick preview of what is selected. Easy to see missed area's.

While in quick mask mode you could also use a brush to paint with black to add to selection or white to remove from the selection.

Captured a small part of your image.
Used quick selection at 50 size and passed over the kids and cake.

Hit " Q " for quick mask and it shows area's missed.


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Oct 21, 2017 14:00 |  #7

Double-check what layer in the layers panel is selected.
I've sometimes added layers above the main layer to clone, etc., and then tried using the quick-select tool on the wrong layer. It won't work.
Make sure you select the correct layer first.




  
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Oct 21, 2017 14:09 as a reply to  @ lacogada's post |  #8

Thanks for the additional ideas, PhotosGuy and lacogada. Eventually managing to click an appropriate pixel allowed the Quick Selection to almost work and then the Quick Mask to refine it has brought success. :)

There's some tweaking to be done but this is where I'm now at.

Sincere thanks to all three of you who've chipped in.


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Oct 21, 2017 14:13 |  #9

PhotosGuy wrote in post #18477601 (external link)
This might help is you haven't used it before: Selecting areas in PS.

Now bookmarked.
Cheers!


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