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Oct 06, 2017 09:30 |  #16

mystik610 wrote in post #18464562 (external link)
A99II isn't technically mirrorless, though it does has an on sensor PDAF system and EVF and behaves like one.

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You can see the mirror in this shot... https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …ny_alpha_a99_ii​_dslr.html (external link)

As for the apparent size/weight advantage of mirrorless body over dSLR body, in the case of the A99II...

A99II Physical (from B&H)
Dimensions (W x H x D) 5.6 x 4.1 x 3.0" / 142.6 x 104.2 x 76.1 mm
Weight 1.868 lbs / 849 g with battery and memory card

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Dimensions (W x H x D) 5.2 x 4.0 x 3.1" / 13.2 x 10.1 x 7.8 cm
Weight 19.58 oz (1.22 lbs) / 555.09 g

80D Physical (from B&H)
Dimensions (W x H x D) 5.5 x 4.1 x 3.1" / 139.0 x 105.2 x 78.5 mm
Weight 1.606 lbs / 730 g based on CIPA guidelines


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Oct 07, 2017 08:44 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #17

Leica M 10
23.3 ozs
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0r 660.54 grams

Height 3.1 in
Width 5.5 in
Depth 1.5 in




  
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Oct 07, 2017 10:44 |  #18

airfrogusmc wrote in post #18467763 (external link)
Leica M 10
23.3 ozs
1.45 pds
0r 660.54 grams

Height 3.1 in
Width 5.5 in
Depth 1.5 in

$6895




  
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Oct 07, 2017 10:47 |  #19

mike_d wrote in post #18467837 (external link)
$6895

And? The good stuff is usually pricey. No more than the top Nicanons




  
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Oct 07, 2017 10:49 |  #20

airfrogusmc wrote in post #18467839 (external link)
And? The good stuff is usually pricey. No more than the top Nicanons

Every time there's a discussion of cameras that might be in the $1000-$3000, you wave the flag for something costing several times as much.




  
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Oct 07, 2017 10:52 |  #21

mike_d wrote in post #18467841 (external link)
Every time there's a discussion of cameras that might be in the $1000-$3000, you wave the flag for something costing several times as much.

Just an alternative to the pretty much the same ole same ole. Don't like my words then don't tune in. But what would a forum be without different points of view.




  
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Oct 07, 2017 23:57 |  #22

Wilt wrote in post #18467186 (external link)
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You can see the mirror in this shot... https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …ny_alpha_a99_ii​_dslr.html (external link)

As for the apparent size/weight advantage of mirrorless body over dSLR body, in the case of the A99II...

A99II Physical (from B&H)
Dimensions (W x H x D) 5.6 x 4.1 x 3.0" / 142.6 x 104.2 x 76.1 mm
Weight 1.868 lbs / 849 g with battery and memory card

T6i Physical (from B&H)
Dimensions (W x H x D) 5.2 x 4.0 x 3.1" / 13.2 x 10.1 x 7.8 cm
Weight 19.58 oz (1.22 lbs) / 555.09 g

80D Physical (from B&H)
Dimensions (W x H x D) 5.5 x 4.1 x 3.1" / 139.0 x 105.2 x 78.5 mm
Weight 1.606 lbs / 730 g based on CIPA guidelines

A99ii is a FF body with dual card slots and a joystick--why are you comparing it to two crop sensor bodies without semi-pro controls?


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Oct 08, 2017 00:16 |  #23

Drums wrote in post #18467052 (external link)
the A mount has a poor lens selection, and 3rd party manufacturers like Tamron and sigma don't make A mount lenses anymore they concentrate on the Sony E mount.

Aside from tilt-shift lenses, a 400 2.8 and a 200 f2, what lens were you looking for that A-mount does not provide?

The older Minolta glass is inexpensive and impressive. The a99ii gives the screwdrive mount glass plenty of AF points, even if the SSM lenses get many more.

Shooting the Zeiss 135 1.8 on a stabilized 42MP Sony sensor with eye-AF is something you can do on no other DSLR-sized body. Also, no need to buy a grip/battery just to reach 9FPS. 12 FPS is available anytime on the a99ii. Tammy came out with the 150-600ii several months back for a-mount, and it isn't difficult to find whatever Sigma glass one would want browsing through B&H and Adorama--not to mention e-Bay.

E-mount is fantastic, no doubt, but the a99ii is one heck of a body with elite lenses available to it.


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Oct 08, 2017 13:39 |  #24

mickeyb105 wrote in post #18468195 (external link)
A99ii is a FF body with dual card slots and a joystick--why are you comparing it to two crop sensor bodies without semi-pro controls?

Simply to disprove generalizations, to show that the A99 - not being 'mirrorless' -- is not 'more compact and lightweight' than dSLRs, as folks tend to think are true of all mirrorless.
After all, the OP started this thread as "wwitching from DSLR to mirrorless" and then mentions considering the A99RII. And while you rightfully point out the apples and oranges comparison resulting from FF vs. APS-C, folks fail to consider sensor size in comparing mirrorless as well...there are Olympus mirrorless which are smaller and lighter but use the 4/3 sensor and FL which are 1/2 as long! And Sony FF mirrorless which are not that much lighter and smaller, when you consider the same FL lenses required for same size sensors.

IOW, to compare in a valid manner one must understand the comparison and what are differences.


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Oct 09, 2017 00:44 |  #25

Sounds odd - but have you not looked into the A9? Seems to be the only real mirrorless which seems replaceable to a DSLR


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Oct 10, 2017 07:43 |  #26

Wilt wrote in post #18468496 (external link)
Simply to disprove generalizations, to show that the A99 - not being 'mirrorless' -- is not 'more compact and lightweight' than dSLRs

Only the Canon 6D series is more compact and lightweight than the A99ii if we are talking about FF DSLR-style bodies.


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Oct 26, 2017 09:07 |  #27

JessicaJones215 wrote in post #18463502 (external link)
I've read a bunch of articles about the finer points of making switch, but what about real world experience. Has anyone made the switch? What do you like/dislike? I'm contemplating leaving Nikon for Sony.

Bought my first mirrorless about 2 years ago - a used Sony Alpha 7, the kit zoom and a Canon FD to Sony E mount adapter. Within a few weeks I decided to sell my 5Dii and the 9 lenses I had. I kept my 50mm f/1.4 and 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 because I still have my EOS 3 film camera. I also bought a Sigma sd Quattro as my APS-H. No regrets.


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Nov 26, 2017 01:07 |  #28

gjl711 wrote in post #18463551 (external link)
I'm not looking to switch but am definitely looking to add a Sony to the camera bag along with the metabones adapter so I can keep my Canon lenses. I'm specifically looking for the better sensor but as you already have a Nikon so you have the option of getting a camera with the Exmor sensor, I'm not sure what the switch will buy you other than a bit less size and weight

I didn't switch .. just added mirrorless.

The Canon M5 ... most wonderful menu ... no need for metabones. Just added the Canon adapter and use native lenses.

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Nov 28, 2017 09:45 |  #29

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I didn't switch .. just added mirrorless.

The Canon M5 ... most wonderful menu ... no need for metabones. Just added the Canon adapter and use native lenses.

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Thing is that I am not looking for a reduction in size but an improvement in image quality. The M5 does not accomplish that. It would be a step backwards for me.


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Nov 28, 2017 09:52 |  #30

mickeyb105 wrote in post #18469587 (external link)
Only the Canon 6D series is more compact and lightweight than the A99ii if we are talking about FF DSLR-style bodies.

As has been revealed a number of times already, 'compact and lightweight' very well applies to the description of the body ALONE,
but after you mount the appropriate lens on the body, the total distance from back of body to front of lens often ends up longer for the mirrorless camera.


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