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Nov 19, 2017 07:06 |  #1

I am now getting together information to purchase a new computer for photo editing. I use high megapixel cameras 32 MP's and run Photoshop. LR and several other photo editing programs. I shoot weddings so I edit literally thousands of photos so speed is very important. I am looking to gain speed by upgrading my current computer I 7 3.4 Ghz 3rd Generation , 16 GB ram . 2 TB Sata HD,NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 so it has been doing a pretty good job but it is 4 years old I am now considering this to kind of increase performance and somewhat future proof for the next 4 or 5 years Here is what I am considering: Dell XPS 8920 Intel I7 7 th Generation 4.2 Ghz 64 GB Ram, 1Tb ssd + 4 Tb HDD, NVIDIA GeForce GT 730. I do only picture editing and no video editing so my question is will this upgrade significantly increased my performance?Thank you in advance

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Nov 19, 2017 09:14 |  #2

That's a pretty powerful machine you have already!

Personally I would consider dropping money into a 512 GB SSD (or 1 TB if affordable) for the existing machine, bumping RAM to 32 GB, and moving the 2 TB Sata drive into a drive bay, if available. Then with proper configuration I think you would realize improved performance that is on a par with what you are considering.

Guys that are using PS and LR on an every day basis will likely offer some good recommendations.




  
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Nov 19, 2017 10:33 |  #3

I agree with John. SSD and some memory of you’re close to maxing what you have now.


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Nov 19, 2017 12:25 |  #4

Agree with everyone else. Put your OS and caches on a new SSD, keep your images on spinning disk, performance will be not far off a new machine.

You will get some performance improvement with a very new CPU, but I don't think it will be as much as you might like. Look at cpubenchmark.net for your current and potential future CPU, focusing on single thread performance, as a lot of the interactive work is likely to be single threaded. If it's not absolute minimum 25% faster, don't bother.

For example, my 2600K is 1942 / 8468 (single all threads) and the 7700K is 2581 / 12105. That's 32% faster single threaded. The question is how much of the time is waiting for the CPU, and how much is waiting for the user? Batch jobs would be a bit faster, if all CPU cores are used, which is unlikely.


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Nov 19, 2017 13:23 |  #5

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If it's not absolute minimum 25% faster, don't bother.

Judging only by clock speed, OP is considering i7 4.2 GHz vs. i7 3.4 GHz...a difference of 24% based only on CPU clock speed


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Nov 19, 2017 14:41 |  #6

Wilt wrote in post #18499815 (external link)
Judging only by clock speed, OP is considering i7 4.2 GHz vs. i7 3.4 GHz...a difference of 24% based only on CPU clock speed

Clock speed is largely irrelevant.


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Nov 19, 2017 15:36 |  #7

Wow I love all the great advice I have received it now gives me a lot to reconsider and to price out upgrades to just the ram and adding a ssd drive and see where I am.


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Nov 19, 2017 16:08 |  #8

An SSD will give some performance boost in Lr with caching, in my experience it makes little difference while actually editing(ie. moving sliders, applying filters, switching layers) which relies heavily on single core performance of the cpu. With the price of RAM these days I would not be investing in more DDR3 when it is a dead form factor and would not be usable in a newer build. If you want to keep this current build going for several years, it maybe worth the investement, otherwise it's wasted money if you decide to upgrade in the near future.


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Nov 19, 2017 17:51 as a reply to  @ -dave-m-'s post |  #9

That is where I am torn I may make these upgrades and then in another year or so decide to go with a complete new unit my current set up will be 5 years old in the spring so there are lot of other things to consider ....the one I am looking a does have 64GB DDR4 Ram . Thank you for your information with LR since I use that a lot


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Nov 20, 2017 00:06 |  #10

I would buy an add. You will see a major upgrade in speed. Also you can use it later for storage of you decide to buy another machine.


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Nov 20, 2017 01:00 |  #11

I don't think you'll get much gain from more than 16GB if you get an SSD. You'll maybe be able to fit a larger set of raw images into RAM, but with the cache on an SSD and images on a spinning disk I don't think having them in RAM will help all that much. Without an SSD the disk caching could be useful.


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Nov 24, 2017 15:46 |  #12

If you buy a new machine go for the 8th gen Intel, might as well have the latest gen, also they appear to be a lot more powerful. The 730 is a quite out of date GPU, I would look at the 1050 or similar now, if you are spending a load of cash on it its probably better to get the latest. Though as others have said an SSD will give you a big performance boost, I would get a 1tb and also a 256gb the latter for OS and apps. 32gig of ram would be a useful PS likes ram it seems. Upgrading could get another couple of years out of the machine so you might be able to jump more generations then.


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Dec 20, 2017 16:17 |  #13

i would upgrade cpu, video card and add SSD.




  
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Dec 20, 2017 16:35 |  #14

alex66 wrote in post #18503391 (external link)
If you buy a new machine go for the 8th gen Intel, might as well have the latest gen, also they appear to be a lot more powerful. The 730 is a quite out of date GPU, I would look at the 1050 or similar now, if you are spending a load of cash on it its probably better to get the latest. Though as others have said an SSD will give you a big performance boost, I would get a 1tb and also a 256gb the latter for OS and apps. 32gig of ram would be a useful PS likes ram it seems. Upgrading could get another couple of years out of the machine so you might be able to jump more generations then.

I have two SSDs, one small for OS and programs, one for data. That lets me take a full backup image of the OS SSD and have it quite compact. Makes for faster restoration.

I don't bother putting images on SSD, just cache and such. Spinning disks are fast enough at delivering raw files, but the low latency of an SSD for cache is worthwhile.


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