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Nov 30, 2017 15:41 |  #1171

RDKirk wrote in post #18506584 (external link)
Wow, I see a huge difference in the light between the Fresnel head and the small reflector. Hee-yuuge.


I just picked one up and have not tested it much.. What is giving you the more powerful lightsource? The bare bulb?


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Nov 30, 2017 16:55 |  #1172

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No I haven't, but that would be bad if there is an issue. Might be due to a different metering system over what other models utilize?

Guessing that's the issue. I have an email in to Adorama about it and will update this thread when I get a reply.


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Nov 30, 2017 17:19 |  #1173

Not sure that it would be an issue with the flash, it will do what the camera exposure system tells it to do, correct?


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Nov 30, 2017 19:48 |  #1174

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18507749 (external link)
Not sure that it would be an issue with the flash, it will do what the camera exposure system tells it to do, correct?

It's exposing at 1/1 via ETTL when it should be exposing at around 1/32 or so. I'm assuming that it has to do with Godox's reverse engineering of the canon ETTL system.


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Nov 30, 2017 19:58 |  #1175

Check your flash metering setting and your AE setting and report back what it is.


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Nov 30, 2017 21:07 |  #1176

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18507475 (external link)
It's a throw back term, like "lead" in you pencil.

Rosco, GAM and Lee once used colored gelatin to make these,. but that was a very long time ago. The term is still however universally "gel" even though it's been polycarbonate or polyester fro decades.

We never "poly" our lights in theatre, we "gel" them.
(although sometimes we "drop color" and no that is not a euphemism for acid)

The storage room for color filters is called the "gel room"

The holders are universally called "gel frames"

So "gel" is the accepted industry standard name for the product regardless of what material they move to make them.

That's theater talk.

Forty years ago in still photography, we were careful to use "gel" for a filter that could go in front of a lens. An "acetate" went in front of a light.

Ekta- films were intended for pros. Koda- films were indented for amateurs (although 35mm pros did use Kodachrome). Koda- films were produced and stored--"seasoned"--until the color balanced reached a plateau that would decay slowly on the shelf or in an amateur's camera until expiration.

The Ekta-films were sold right out of the vats and intended to be kept refrigerated until used, then promptly processed. Commercial professionals bought "bricks" of Ekta- films by the batch number, tested them carefully for the color balance of that batch (and bought more of that batch), then calculated the color correction filter pack needed to get a perfect color balance. That filter pack would be gelatin filters--optically perfect even when stacked--and the filter pack would go in front of the lens for every shot.

Gelatin filters are insanely expensive, however, for such simple pieces of stuff. They were also delicate--they scratched and marred with a finger-touch and wilted under the heat of photographic lights. Nobody put gelatins in front of lights, and nobody put acetates in front of lenses.


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Nov 30, 2017 21:11 |  #1177

scorpio_e wrote in post #18507699 (external link)
I just picked one up and have not tested it much.. What is giving you the more powerful lightsource? The bare bulb?

The AD200 Fresnel concentrates more light to a smaller rectangularish area, but it has a hot spot with ugly patterned fall-off.

The reflector (with or without the nearly useless diffusion disk) throws a bit broader light in a round spot with a very smooth fall off.


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Nov 30, 2017 22:14 |  #1178

When using the x1 transmitter, is it possible to display the FEC setting on the back of the evolv when it's set to TTL? I can only see the adjustment taking place in MANUAL.




  
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Nov 30, 2017 22:50 |  #1179

kayl wrote in post #18507829 (external link)
It's exposing at 1/1 via ETTL when it should be exposing at around 1/32 or so. I'm assuming that it has to do with Godox's reverse engineering of the canon ETTL system.

Is your transmitter using the latest firmware?

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Dec 01, 2017 17:17 |  #1180

RDKirk wrote in post #18507861 (external link)
That's theater talk.

Forty years ago in still photography, we were careful to use "gel" for a filter that could go in front of a lens. An "acetate" went in front of a light.

Ekta- films were intended for pros. Koda- films were indented for amateurs (although 35mm pros did use Kodachrome). Koda- films were produced and stored--"seasoned"--until the color balanced reached a plateau that would decay slowly on the shelf or in an amateur's camera until expiration.

The Ekta-films were sold right out of the vats and intended to be kept refrigerated until used, then promptly processed. Commercial professionals bought "bricks" of Ekta- films by the batch number, tested them carefully for the color balance of that batch (and bought more of that batch), then calculated the color correction filter pack needed to get a perfect color balance. That filter pack would be gelatin filters--optically perfect even when stacked--and the filter pack would go in front of the lens for every shot.

Gelatin filters are insanely expensive, however, for such simple pieces of stuff. They were also delicate--they scratched and marred with a finger-touch and wilted under the heat of photographic lights. Nobody put gelatins in front of lights, and nobody put acetates in front of lenses.

All that and the gels were coded relative to the color correction they provided using cc (color correction) values. Usually in increments of 5, 10 and sometimes 20. The tricky part was getting them into a pack that could be used in front of a medium format or 35mm camera. The intent was to use them with view cameras.

We also tried to buy or Ekta-- for different formats from the same batch. It was quite a book keeping task, once we used a batch for a client we would keep the a record in case we had to do more work on the same project.


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Dec 01, 2017 22:33 |  #1181

RDKirk wrote in post #18507861 (external link)
That's theater talk.

Yep :)


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Dec 02, 2017 00:18 |  #1182

scorpio_e wrote in post #18507699 (external link)
I just picked one up and have not tested it much.. What is giving you the more powerful lightsource? The bare bulb?

I haven’t researched any specific test but I know they are around somewhere.

For my uses the bare bulb had a wider spread of light vs. the fresnel head , it filled modifiers pretty well.


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Dec 02, 2017 00:28 |  #1183

I just got mine too and the bare bulb seems very strong compared to the fresnel head. I cannot wait to get another as the Adorama kit came with the dual head bracket.


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Dec 02, 2017 03:08 |  #1184

For strictly light meter readings, the Fresnel head is about 3 to 4 stop brighter bare bulb only, and about 1/3 to 1/2 stop compares to bare bulb with the standard reflector. By the way, it's tough to fill an umbrella with the fresnel head.


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Dec 02, 2017 21:19 |  #1185

Based off that illumination pattern on the fresnel head, I guess that's why it has a 1/4-20 thread on the side as well as the bottom!


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