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Dec 31, 2017 14:49 |  #1

I need some advice. I recently was asked to shoot team pictures for a high school basketball team. Individual and Group. I visited the gym and noticed that the lighting was very poor. I have two speed lights, bounce umbrellas and lights stands. Can the job be done with this equipment. Do I need to upgrade my equipment? If so what do you recommend? Monolights? I'm lost. Please help.




  
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Dec 31, 2017 14:54 |  #2

Heya,

So that means flash/strobing is ok during the game? If so, you have an awesome opportunity. Two ways to approach it. One, expose the entire thing via the flashes (as in, camera settings to nuke ambient light, flash bouncing in the entire gym to expose everything). Two, using flash as fill. I bring it up because depending on the temps of the lighting in the gym, you may need to match that with gels on your lights, when doing fill and mixing ambient & flash, or none at all if you're exposing completely with flash. If the gym is small enough you could be able to completely expose the whole place with the speedlites bouncing off the ceiling and a wall (with camera settings set to drop ambient to nothing). It would be a lot easier with a monolight with more power though. For on the go fill, you'd need HSS on the speedlites. If you're not doing HSS, you're at sync speed, and 1/200s or whatever equivalent your camera does is not going to freeze motion. But indoors, 1/200s, F-whatever for depth of field, and whatever ISO results in no ambient exposure, will work with your speedlites bouncing.

Need a lot more info really about your gear, the venue, how you want to expose them, etc.

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Jan 01, 2018 19:13 |  #3

He said team and individual, so these aren't action shots.

Two speed lights should be enough for individuals, but would likely be challenged for the group shot. You can compensate by using a higher ISO. Not much else you can do without investing in more gear.

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Jan 01, 2018 19:17 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #4

Thank You for the response.




  
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Jan 01, 2018 19:31 as a reply to  @ pat.kane's post |  #5

What would be the ideal gear for taking the group shot?




  
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Jan 01, 2018 22:28 as a reply to  @ CoachB's post |  #6

You want as big a modifier as you can get. Ideally two large softboxes or perhaps the extra large umbrella style modifiers like the buff PLM. One on each side of the camera to flood the group with big soft light. You can try using a 60 or even 42(ish) in umbrella on each side, that's about as big as a speedlite can fill. You still might need a separation light to keep dark hair from disappearing into the background. A lot depends on how much you are willing to invest in doing this job and if you'll get any use out of gear going forwad.




  
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Jan 01, 2018 22:36 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #7

Thank You for the great advice. i will look into purchasing two large umbrella.What would be your advice for the ideal equipment needed? I see myself doing more of these jobs in the future.




  
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Jan 01, 2018 23:35 |  #8

CoachB wrote in post #18531343 (external link)
Thank You for the great advice. i will look into purchasing two large umbrella.What would be your advice for the ideal equipment needed? I see myself doing more of these jobs in the future.

I would suggest a minimum of 3 monolitghts, the brand is largely irrelevant. I have alien bee units and love them but there are some exciting new models available from godox and other brands that you might check into. Any barebulb style moonlight will work because the modifier is the important part. As I said in th e earlier posts group shots are best with extra large modifiers. Check out the plm system from paul c buff. As for individual sports portraits you probably ought to do some self education before you invest. Search YouTube for videos by Joel Grimes, the lit up session on sports portraits will show you a fantastic 3 light setup.




  
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Jan 02, 2018 00:35 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #9

Very helpful information. I really appreciate it.




  
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