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Mar 29, 2016 22:36 |  #16

This is the Non Dual-Iso version of the image in the previous page. The highlights are all the way to the left in the highlights slider(minimum) and the shadows all the way to the right. I tried to get them very close in appearance but didn't put too much time into it:( The only manipulation was with LR's gradual filter over the sun/clouds, about 1/2 stop on the dual ISO and about 1 stop on the non dual ISO.

Just to clarify, in the dual ISO image -- ML was set to 100/800. Meaning the highlights were exposed at ISO 100 and the shadows at ISO 800. The 6D does very well with higher ISOs so the 800 is not too much of a strain on the final product. Since ML exposes one row of sensors at 100 and the other at 800 there is a loss in resolution on both sides of the fence but that seems a better compromise than to expose for the highlights and pull the shadows that much. The odd thing is that even images that shouldn't benefit from the dual-ISO due to the fact that the DR is not that much seem to have more "POP" the normally exposed images. I took these images with and without Dual-ISO just to see what could be done https://www.flickr.com​/gp/76233298@N02/2W89M​9 (external link)

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Mar 29, 2016 23:13 |  #17

I started with ML in 2010 on a 5D2, mainly for the intervalometer and one or 2 other functions like focus peaking with the MP-E.

I don't use ML on a regular basis, but ML is on all my cameras for so long now, i never got a hick up, and if i don't want ML to start/load, i just press the set button during the switch on (but i forgot it always)
I never got any hiccup because i am following a basic rule given on the ML website which is "before to open the battery door/memory card door > switch off the camera and WAIT at least 5 seconds"

There is a slight delay when you switch on of 2-3 seconds (but may be i need to update ML on my cameras)

In all case, it is NOT a SWITCh from Canon to ML, you got both firmware on you camera (to be exact one in camera and one on the memory card),
roughly if you push the trashcan button on your camera you will setup your camera with ML, if not you're using the Canon firmware.
This means also, if you change the memory card and there is no ML installed on the new one = no ML on your camera only Canon firmware


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May 01, 2016 00:48 |  #18

Just a quick dumb question for you users. When i upload my images to the computer what do i do then because i usually reformat the card to remove all images will that delete the m/l from the card if so what can i do to keep this from happening.


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May 01, 2016 01:49 |  #19

lonerider519 wrote in post #17991294 (external link)
Just a quick dumb question for you users. When i upload my images to the computer what do i do then because i usually reformat the card to remove all images will that delete the m/l from the card if so what can i do to keep this from happening.

Nothing! I also reformat the card after uploading the files to the computer. ML will remain in the card, you actually have to go out of your way to remove it from the card. The only drawback is that the settings are saved to the card, they do not reside in the camera. This means you have to "reprogram" ML's settings and save them to each card. there is a settings file you can copy from card to card but I find it easier to just reprogram and save the settings to each card.




  
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May 01, 2016 12:56 |  #20

You are reformatting in your camera? Never reformat in the computer, always in the camera. That's a best practice, Magic Lantern or no ML.

As CheleA says, ML integrates with the camera firmware in such a way that it is preserved in a *camera* reformat of the card.


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May 02, 2016 01:43 |  #21

SailingAway wrote in post #17991923 (external link)
You are reformatting in your camera? Never reformat in the computer, always in the camera. That's a best practice, Magic Lantern or no ML.

Good clarification!




  
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May 02, 2016 10:45 as a reply to  @ SailingAway's post |  #22

Just to let you know i never take my memory cards out of the camera and the formatting is done in the camera.


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May 02, 2016 14:38 |  #23

lonerider519 wrote in post #17992988 (external link)
Just to let you know i never take my memory cards out of the camera and the formatting is done in the camera.

The card is wiped completely clean when formatted in the computer. This is actually necessary when moving from one version of ML to another, like the latest version. All the ML's info (firmware and settings) is retained when formatting is done in the camera. I have never had any issues with ML. That might be because I don't use that many features since I don't do video and shoot full manual. With that said, the features I do use, I use quite a bit!




  
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May 02, 2016 17:48 as a reply to  @ CheleA's post |  #24

Thanks i did not know that, i was going to install ML in my 60d but i land up leaving the camera on the west coast with my son.


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Jun 15, 2016 21:26 |  #25

Like some others had mentioned, I tried hard to use ML for about 2 years. I finally wiped it from the card about 6 months ago and haven't looked back.I was most interested in Dual-ISO and focus peaking. I didn't enjoy the extra processing steps with the dual iso files and I found the results to be good, but not significantly better than what I could create using the in-camera HDR mode on the 5D3. I'm sure with lots of trial and error you could get better HDR type results, but it wasn't enough for me. Focus peaking can be useful with manual focusing situations or when recording video...two things I rarely perform with my DSLR.

I would have left it on the camera if it weren't for the battery drain and slow start-up. I can't recall exactly, but there was something about opening the memory card or battery door before completely powering down that was causing my battery to drain while the camera was off. I also found it to significant reduce battery life during use. The slow wake-up after half-pressing the shutter was really the final straw. Very frustrating.



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Jan 01, 2018 14:49 |  #26

Good to hear experiences, probably going to try for intervalmeter and focus stacking.




  
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Jan 02, 2018 15:26 |  #27

mannetti21 wrote in post #18040678 (external link)
I would have left it on the camera if it weren't for the battery drain and slow start-up. I can't recall exactly, but there was something about opening the memory card or battery door before completely powering down that was causing my battery to drain while the camera was off. I also found it to significant reduce battery life during use. The slow wake-up after half-pressing the shutter was really the final straw. Very frustrating.


I always un-install ML when I am done using the specific feature. It takes just 60 seconds. I sometimes go months without using ML but it then takes about 30 seconds to install it again. It just lies dormant on the SD card until you need it again.


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