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Jan 04, 2018 08:04 |  #9856

David Arbogast wrote in post #18532960 (external link)
If we could make a list of every single Sony, Zeiss, and Voigtlander FE lens and rank them optically from strongest to weakest, the lenses at the bottom of the list would be relatively weak, even if every single lens on the list is still great and highly desirable in some ways.

About the 70-300 I know next to nothing - never been on my radar. How does it compare optically to the 70-200/4 and 100-400GM? Equally good?

70-300G not as good. In a different tier. G versus GM in this case is significant.
But it has advantages.....weight being one of them. David you had the 100-400GM and I think you'd agree that even it
will get heavy after a while.
For my world the 70-300G was made for the A7Riii and the custom button for instant crop mode. The 70-300G isn't sharp
enough for a 2.0TC but I think (and I'd like to hear others but the 70-300G seems rare in hand, Eriet???) it is sharp enough for
the 42mpx sensor.

Reminds, did someone ask about the 28-70? A case where it shouldn't be put on the R2 or R3 if you have a choice but fine
on the a9 for walkabout.

While I'm trying to wake up and think, I'd choose the a9 over the R2 for Milky Way, R3 I dont' know yet.


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Jan 04, 2018 08:34 |  #9857

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Randy, we've got to get you over that Canon thing! (just teasing, just teasing a bit :)

I’m starting to think that’s possible at some point. The wife doesn’t know about the Sony technically. I’ve used it in front of her and she’s never said anything. But she bought me 2 red ring lenses for birthday’s for me, so that would be thin ice to sell those. I also still feel more comfortable operating the Canon. The Sony still lacks something in ergonomics. I’m sure the joystick helps a lot since the most frequent thing is the focus point. And I know it’s silly and there are ways around it, but I like the GPS on the 5D4. I also like the touch screen. I’m not comfortable with video on the Sony at all. Maybe I just need a training course or to watch some of the videos online again now that I’ve had the thing for 9 months or so.


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Jan 04, 2018 08:52 |  #9858

My contribution to the 52 week challenge for the week. It didn't quite turn out the way I wanted, but you get the gist. 2017 sucked.

That thing is made out of metal, so I had to hit it pretty damn hard to break it apart. It was actually pretty theraputic :-)

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Jan 04, 2018 09:23 |  #9859

Speaking of the 52 week challenge, there are still a couple of days to submit something for the first week Cut-off is on Monday. Great motivation to get out and shoot each week.....especially since we have a reputation for being all about G.A.S here.

Here's the thread:

https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18533152


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Jan 04, 2018 09:33 |  #9860

any of you southerners on the east coast getting the snow? Here in Western NY we are slotted to get another foot or so of fresh snow as well as -30* temps after wind... Gonna be an interesting few days



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Jan 04, 2018 09:47 |  #9861

David Arbogast wrote in post #18532939 (external link)
What FE-mount lenses do you want to see this year?

My Sony wishlist:
FE 24mm F1.4 GM
FE 24mm F3.5 TS GM
FE 135mm F2 GM (nobody ever complained about the Canon 135L bokeh...f/2 is adequate for evaporating backgrounds).
FE 200mm F2.8 GM
FE Sports/Wildlife Big Guns GM

My Zeiss wishlist:
Batis 35mm F2
Loxia 15mm F4
Would love to see a Makro Planar in FE mount.

This is a nice list, David.

Even though I don't have a dog in this fight right now, I'm not against picking up an a7rii/a6x00 combo to replace the a99ii if the lenses I want are available (and, if possible, affordable!)

Sony wishlist:
200mm f2 GM (perfect chance to make a statement)
200mm f2.8 G (doesn't need to be a GM, but needs to be smallish and under $1K if possible)
300mm f2.8 GM (Sony's 300mm A-mount offering isn't as strong as Canon's, but a GM would be)
400mm f2.8 and/or f4 GM (Gotta be seen on the sidelines and hides!)

Zeiss wishlist:
135 f2 or f1.8 (not picky, both plenty fast)

For A-Mount:
any new lenses!
200 2.8 G ssm
135 1.8 ZA ssm
85 1.4 ZA ssm
35 1.4 ZA ssm


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Jan 04, 2018 10:19 |  #9862

randy98mtu wrote in post #18533142 (external link)
I’m starting to think that’s possible at some point. The wife doesn’t know about the Sony technically. I’ve used it in front of her and she’s never said anything. But she bought me 2 red ring lenses for birthday’s for me, so that would be thin ice to sell those. I also still feel more comfortable operating the Canon. The Sony still lacks something in ergonomics. I’m sure the joystick helps a lot since the most frequent thing is the focus point. And I know it’s silly and there are ways around it, but I like the GPS on the 5D4. I also like the touch screen. I’m not comfortable with video on the Sony at all. Maybe I just need a training course or to watch some of the videos online again now that I’ve had the thing for 9 months or so.

Haha, I remember this, mine didn’t notice the when I swapped my 60D for a 5Diii, she did however notice when the Sony arrived (although she thinks it was almost a straight swap ;)




  
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Jan 04, 2018 10:39 |  #9863

irishguy0224 wrote in post #18533169 (external link)
any of you southerners on the east coast getting the snow? Here in Western NY we are slotted to get another foot or so of fresh snow as well as -30* temps after wind... Gonna be an interesting few days

Thankfully nothing but sunshine in the forecast for us here in West Point, GA. Temperatures are definitely cool though...high today only 38F.


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Jan 04, 2018 10:55 |  #9864

ChrisHeathcote wrote in post #18533191 (external link)
Haha, I remember this, mine didn’t notice the when I swapped my 60D for a 5Diii, she did however notice when the Sony arrived (although she thinks it was almost a straight swap ;)

Reminds me of this OLD thread.

I get home and she hits me with "WHY DO YOU HAVE THREE CAMERAS??" Whewwwwwwwwww! She only found three!

I'm starting to feel like that. I can't tell you how many things I've bought camera wise that she doesn't know about. :evil:


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Jan 04, 2018 11:10 |  #9865

randy98mtu wrote in post #18533142 (external link)
I’m starting to think that’s possible at some point. The wife doesn’t know about the Sony technically. I’ve used it in front of her and she’s never said anything. But she bought me 2 red ring lenses for birthday’s for me, so that would be thin ice to sell those. I also still feel more comfortable operating the Canon. The Sony still lacks something in ergonomics. I’m sure the joystick helps a lot since the most frequent thing is the focus point. And I know it’s silly and there are ways around it, but I like the GPS on the 5D4. I also like the touch screen. I’m not comfortable with video on the Sony at all. Maybe I just need a training course or to watch some of the videos online again now that I’ve had the thing for 9 months or so.

there are a few things that I really enjoy with the R3.

I'm primarily a rear LCD screen shooter nowadays, unless sunlight is really bothering me. Touch screen is really fantastic, I use it quite a bit more than the joystick ;-)a. I think the joystick implementation is really good, movements are really quick, but since I hardly do EVF, not a big factor for me.

The AF recall button.... turns out, I use that quite a bit, between point AF and wide area. One click switch, sometimes I just want the closest in focus and wide area simplifies a ton.

Shot to shot is very DSLR like @8fps and below. None of the shutter stutter of the R2, the UI is fast and responsive in that regard. It's the minimum blackout "live" shooting feature that the A6500 had. Not quite A9, but no other camera offers the A9's totally unique blackout free experience.

Spray and pray. Jumping sequences, crank to 10 fps and you'll get something decent.

GPS, I really loved the canon GPS, but missing it for years, I kind of forgot about it. The R3 offers phone pairing via blue tooth. Once setup, you just need your phone on when you turn on the camera, and it should auto pair.

From the front, the R2 and R3 look identical. Even the rear, only a sony user would spot the difference. My wife cant tell :-P

that said, I'm going to make my best effort to stop buying gear, on paper, my collection is rather complete, and I really should stop....... well with the exception of a fast AND small 35. if it doesnt materialize, then I'll simply continue on with what I've got.


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Jan 04, 2018 12:08 |  #9866

randy98mtu wrote in post #18533142 (external link)
I’m starting to think that’s possible at some point. The wife doesn’t know about the Sony technically. I’ve used it in front of her and she’s never said anything. But she bought me 2 red ring lenses for birthday’s for me, so that would be thin ice to sell those. I also still feel more comfortable operating the Canon. The Sony still lacks something in ergonomics. I’m sure the joystick helps a lot since the most frequent thing is the focus point. And I know it’s silly and there are ways around it, but I like the GPS on the 5D4. I also like the touch screen. I’m not comfortable with video on the Sony at all. Maybe I just need a training course or to watch some of the videos online again now that I’ve had the thing for 9 months or so.

Two red-rinds for the BD, yep you need to be careful :)
Nothing wrong at all living in both worlds, remember I was just joshing with you.
I lived in both for quite a while and I'll be the first to admit that even for what I like to
shoot it is a bit harder with Sony in some ways and a lot easier in others.
Bottom line we're having fun.


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Jan 04, 2018 12:20 |  #9867

OK David just for you I brave 15F and hide in the blind....the blind is just a camo net I was sitting behind this time
so no wind protection.
With the 70-300G.

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Jan 04, 2018 12:28 |  #9868

randy98mtu wrote in post #18533218 (external link)
Reminds me of this OLD thread.

I'm starting to feel like that. I can't tell you how many things I've bought camera wise that she doesn't know about. :evil:

That thread made me smile. I have written it into my will that to save her the grief of having to sell my camera gear, my best friend is responsible for finding it a new home. Her selling it for what she THINKS it is worth would be enough to bring me back




  
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Jan 04, 2018 12:45 |  #9869

I don't think I actually bought any digital gear in 2017......... I'm sure I picked the Batis 85 up at the end of 2016...... :rolleyes:


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Jan 04, 2018 12:59 |  #9870

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I don't think I actually bought any digital gear in 2017......... I'm sure I picked the Batis 85 up at the end of 2016...... :rolleyes:

Just means you were content and didn't get bit by the GAS bug.



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