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Jan 26, 2018 11:42 |  #7426

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Jeff, absolutely agree that these kinds of results are possible. That level of clarity and sharpness is what I'm wanting from this 80D, and as Joe's/my photos have demonstrated, there's peculiar happenings at play, be they atmospherics, particular combinations of TC/body or TC/lens, or perhaps I'm just missing something boneheaded. Definitely wouldn't be the first time, so I'm just trying to eliminate variables and possibilities is all.

What's weird is that I went through this a year or two back, and after help from you friendly forum folk, started seeing fantastic results. I have no doubt about what is possible, seen it with my own eyes. But, I stupidly parted with that particular 100-400 II when I switched to the DO II, thinking I wouldn't need the zoom anymore... definitely one of those boneheaded moves I previously mentioned, because I ended up repurchasing another one a few short months later. :cry: Lesson learned: don't sell your 100-400 II's.

I'm at odds with that. If Canon had of offered both the 100-400 II and a 400 5.6 II IS I have said I would have gotten the prime. I shot for 8 years with 300L F4 IS and I still can't get used to zooming while I shoot. I know Jake who had the older version preferred the pull/push over rotation.

Now I'm not so sure. I don't think I'll give up the 100-400 even though 90% of my shots are at 400mm if I ever get the 400 DO II.


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Jan 26, 2018 13:06 |  #7427

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Jeff, absolutely agree that these kinds of results are possible. That level of clarity and sharpness is what I'm wanting from this 80D, and as Joe's/my photos have demonstrated, there's peculiar happenings at play, be they atmospherics, particular combinations of TC/body or TC/lens, or perhaps I'm just missing something boneheaded. Definitely wouldn't be the first time, so I'm just trying to eliminate variables and possibilities is all.

What's weird is that I went through this a year or two back, and after help from you friendly forum folk, started seeing fantastic results. I have no doubt about what is possible, seen it with my own eyes. But, I stupidly parted with that particular 100-400 II when I switched to the DO II, thinking I wouldn't need the zoom anymore... definitely one of those boneheaded moves I previously mentioned, because I ended up repurchasing another one a few short months later. :cry: Lesson learned: don't sell your 100-400 II's.

lol too funny.. I dont like primes for that reason alone. would be like underwear being .....one size fits all..... a little restricting lol

To me... clarity is not 100% about focus.... Its about motion blur... theirs and mine own !!


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Jan 26, 2018 13:36 |  #7428

I also just gave up my 300mm f/4 lens & am practicing using the 100-400 regularly. I do really like both lenses & I think the 100-400 is as sharp as my 300mm Prime lens was.


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Jan 26, 2018 13:40 |  #7429

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I also just gave up my 300mm f/4 lens & am practicing using the 100-400 regularly. I do really like both lenses & I think the 100-400 is as sharp as my 300mm Prime lens was.

So do I. My wife told me to keep the trusty 300. She said it will be easier to hold it up as you are an old fart and will only get
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Jan 26, 2018 13:43 |  #7430

I didn't get many keepers with my 400 f/5.6... not sure why. It was probably me. I had very good luck with my 70-300L... so much so that I still have it, even after I got the 100-400L ii.

It still doesn't make much sense to me. I do very well with the 100-400L ii at 400mm, so why did I do so poorly with a 400 prime? The easy answer is the IS.... but I try to shoot at shutter speeds of 1/1000 or higher so the IS shouldn't matter that much.. or does it?


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Jan 26, 2018 14:03 |  #7431

My friend had one. Very sharp and the only reason I did not get it and the 300 instead was lack of IS. I'm not that steady and I have never shut IS off for any lens, stills or moving unless using a tripod. I have to with the 300 because it is first generation IS and does not auto detect no movement to shut down IS.


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Jan 26, 2018 14:12 as a reply to  @ post 18548804 |  #7432

Hi Chris, The Canon EF 100-400 is mark II cost about $2,799 here in Australia to buy unless it's on sale, I'm trying to save up for it myself just like you it's taking me a very long long time to save the money for it lol. I did love your photos as well , Just like a TV ad about a cheese here in Australia and New Zealand would say it does take time. :-)




  
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Jan 26, 2018 16:33 |  #7433

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I also just gave up my 300mm f/4 lens & am practicing using the 100-400 regularly. I do really like both lenses & I think the 100-400 is as sharp as my 300mm Prime lens was.

Likewise, before this lens, I would have argued that the 400mm f/5.6 is ever so slightly sharper than the 300mm f/4,. but this zoom at least equals, but really more likely is sharper than both.


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Jan 27, 2018 01:48 |  #7434

I sold my 5dmk 3 and all my lenses to invest purely in the 7Dmkll and the 100-400mkll and although I don't regret it for a moment, I do sometimes wonder that if I hadn't got into birding whether I could have saved myself a heap of money. Apart for the longer reach I wonder sometimes if all that extra cash spent could have been put to better use if I'd just decided to manage with the 55-250 which can now be bought for only A$160. Not that much in IQ difference to my old eyes (now suffering cataracts) and the 100% crop amazed me for a lens at that price!

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Jan 27, 2018 08:24 as a reply to  @ bidkev's post |  #7435

Kev, your excellent work speaks for itself, and I think I speak for all of us when I say that you could do brilliant work with whatever camera/lens you use. We’re just glad you chose the 100-400 because otherwise you wouldn’t be sharing your work in this thread :)

I’ve heard great things about the 55-250, in fact I recommended it to my best friend whose looking to get his first DSLR.


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Jan 27, 2018 09:10 |  #7436

I had a great time rippin up this thread. The 100-400LII has been so good. Ive put it to the test in some of the coldest weather, and some of the warmest too.

Still to this day I would have paid quite a bit more to get a sealed all in one non telescoping lens. Its distracting to know your sliding the lens in the dusty rainy places wildlife shooters shoot. but all in all a wonderful peace to have in your hands. Its shocking to me to think Ive been using it for years.. picked mine up feb 18 2015.

I enjoyed ever minute of it surrounded by some of the worlds coolest critter's.


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Jan 27, 2018 11:15 |  #7437

OK, I've come to the conclussion of What it seems to be limitations on the lens and 1.4III combo. I think I'm on to something when it comes to the infinity focus, or at least a distance issue with focus. I was told today that the seals are about 600 yards out. on a tripod , F8, 1/1000 IS on , servo, spot metering it was still very soft with the 1.4III . I take off the 1.4III only change is to F5.6, oh and hand held. BOOM, quite a bit better. a tad smaller but better. Now I don't think it's mush all the way through with the 1.4 on, some of the closer subjects look great. So, it's know the limitations of the equipment you use more or less.

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Jan 27, 2018 11:49 |  #7438

600 yards? I don't bother at those distances. Too much cropping and definitely subject to atmospheric distortion. I wish I had kept the worser images from that day but you can see it is effecting this shot. Not the clarity you can get from this lens.


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Jan 27, 2018 11:51 |  #7439

I should have 600 for wildlife. With aviation you have no choice.


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Jan 27, 2018 12:50 |  #7440

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OK, I've come to the conclussion of What it seems to be limitations on the lens and 1.4III combo. I think I'm on to something when it comes to the infinity focus, or at least a distance issue with focus. I was told today that the seals are about 600 yards out. on a tripod , F8, 1/1000 IS on , servo, spot metering it was still very soft with the 1.4III . I take off the 1.4III only change is to F5.6, oh and hand held. BOOM, quite a bit better. a tad smaller but better. Now I don't think it's mush all the way through with the 1.4 on, some of the closer subjects look great. So, it's know the limitations of the equipment you use more or less.

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