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Jan 28, 2018 16:55 |  #121

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I just finally got rid of my Canon DSLR gear after 20 years. It has served me fantastically but technology is moving forwards and it was all starting to feel a bit archaic and cumbersome.

The Panasonic G9 is a brilliant little machine. The only real compromise is the sensor but even there it's only really DOF control that is the issue and there are ways around that. It handles noise at 6400 ISO remarkably well - indistinguishable from the 7D2.

The weight/size saving in the 70-200 2.8 equivalent alone is obscene!

The 7d2 isn't exactly a high-ISO beast though. I wish 6400 were enough for some of the stuff I shoot.




  
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Jan 28, 2018 21:54 |  #122

If I can't do it with a 50 1.2 at 6400 it aint worth photographing :D


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Jan 28, 2018 21:58 |  #123

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If I can't do it with a 50 1.2 at 6400 it aint worth photographing :D

Well then I guess you're saying that nothing I ever photographed was worth photographing, (because you would not have been able to photograph it with a 50mm f1.2 at 6400 ISO). . That makes me feel really great about my photography . . . NOT.


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Jan 28, 2018 22:03 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #124

The key word in what I wrote was... "I" - yes, I have zero interest in wildlife photography!

It's not a sleight on anyone else's photography. It's just a random voice on the internet anyway - hardly worth taking to heart!

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Jan 28, 2018 22:08 |  #125

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The key word in what I wrote was... "I".

;)

Right.

You said that if you can't shoot it at 50mm f1.2 and 6400, then it isn't worth photographing.

Taken literally, that would mean that anything that you yourself can't photograph isn't worth photographing. . So, again, taken literally, if you weren't at a baseball game, then you couldn't photograph it, so it was not worth photographing. . If you weren't there with me when I photographed a deer, then that deer wasn't worth photographing. . Same for any and all things that you yourself were unable to photograph personally at 50mm f1.2 and 6400.

Perhaps you did not mean this literally?


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Jan 28, 2018 22:11 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #126

Read it any way you like!

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Jan 28, 2018 23:41 |  #127

Well if I can't photograph it @f8 and 100 ISO it's not worth photographing
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Feb 04, 2018 12:19 |  #128

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With all of those cameras you have to turn them on to see all three of those things.

Not with any of my Fuji cameras... and my GFX even shows how many shots are remaining without having to turn it on. Does your M10 do that?


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Feb 04, 2018 19:28 |  #129

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Not with any of my Fuji cameras... and my GFX even shows how many shots are remaining without having to turn it on. Does your M10 do that?

I shoot with 128g cards with the M 10 so it's a non issue and I prefer a true rangefinder over everything else.




  
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Feb 05, 2018 10:40 |  #130

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I shoot with 128g cards with the M 10 so it's a non issue and I prefer a true rangefinder over everything else.


LOL

I prefer accurate metering and precision focusing accuracy, and my subjects don't patiently pose for me, so none of the M10 "features" are of much interest to me. ;-)a


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Feb 05, 2018 13:49 |  #131

I've just made the jump myself from my Nikon d7100/nikon 300mm f4 prime, to a Oly E-M1/75-300, my athritis in my hands was casusing discomfort when hand holding my nikon gear for long periods, maksing taking it out a bit less of an enjoyment.

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Feb 05, 2018 15:06 |  #132

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LOL

I prefer accurate metering and precision focusing accuracy, and my subjects don't patiently pose for me, so none of the M10 "features" are of much interest to me. ;-)a


But not to me and a lot of others. There is not better auto focus than actually doing it yourself and no better exposure judge than decades of expense. All just tools and I would rather have full control over mine especially when it's how i feed the family so it's nice to have choices and as I see it Leica is making tools that are much different than the most of the herd is cranking out today.




  
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Feb 05, 2018 15:55 |  #133

airfrogusmc wrote in post #18557034 (external link)
Leica is making tools that are much different than the most of the herd is cranking out today.

You keep saying this like Leica is the only company with a unique camera... gimmie a break.

If you want a full frame camera with IBS and high resolution, where can you go but to Sony? If you want a tactile camera with full physical dials and a hybrid EVF/OVF, where can you go but to Fuji? If you want a really small and full featured lens lineup ILC where can you go but m4/3?

Leica is certainly unique, but to call all other brands part of a "heard" all doing the same thing is laughably inaccurate.


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Feb 05, 2018 17:02 |  #134

airfrogusmc wrote in post #18557034 (external link)
...All just tools and I would rather have full control over mine especially when it's how i feed the family so it's nice to have choices and as I see it Leica is making tools that are much different than the most of the herd is cranking out today.

I have full control of mine too, with the bonus of all the modern aids to pick and choose from as needed or turned off if not. My favourite is seeing the exposure and WB in the viewfinder before I shoot. As well as having the shutter and ISO dials on the top of the camera & the aperture on the lens.

Just because the camera has a feature doesn't mean I have to use it.


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Feb 05, 2018 17:50 |  #135

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You keep saying this like Leica is the only company with a unique camera... gimmie a break.

If you want a full frame camera with IBS and high resolution, where can you go but to Sony? If you want a tactile camera with full physical dials and a hybrid EVF/OVF, where can you go but to Fuji? If you want a really small and full featured lens lineup ILC where can you go but m4/3?

Leica is certainly unique, but to call all other brands part of a "heard" all doing the same thing is laughably inaccurate.


I'm not saying that but name one other company making a B&W digital rangefinder camera? Name one other company making a camera without any automation and not even having an LCD screen so there's your break. Most of the other brands 135 and crop mirrorless and DSLR are mostly all auto and are not that different from one another as far as features.




  
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