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Feb 10, 2018 08:02 |  #1

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These are two shots that I am planning on entering into the National IPC competition this year. Any feedback or critiques is appreciated.

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Feb 10, 2018 18:46 |  #2

Very nice. The brown feathers on the first image seem a bit washed out. With so much contrast in the sky, it seems a bit out of place that there is little contrast on the eagle.


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Feb 11, 2018 13:18 |  #3

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Very nice. The brown feathers on the first image seem a bit washed out. With so much contrast in the sky, it seems a bit out of place that there is little contrast on the eagle.

I got the same reaction from one of my mentors. He also didn't like the border/matting on these, so I have updated them. Below are the two revised entries. Comments are welcome.


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Feb 11, 2018 13:49 |  #4

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The photos are great.

I really do not think the first border is good, it looks sort of "cheap", sorry. Second one is ok, but not great.

Why do you have to add border/frame/matte/pas​separtout at all? That is IMHO something that should be done by a professional (by print house, gallery, exhibition owner), not by the photographer.


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Feb 11, 2018 14:01 |  #5

A good photo should look good without any sort of border, if putting a fancy border on it makes it look better then it wasn't that good to start with. Or so I was once told!




  
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Feb 11, 2018 14:07 as a reply to  @ Pekka's post |  #6

See item #6 of this link http://www.ppa.com …ntent.cfm?ItemN​umber=1792 (external link). It is expected in the US IPC National competition that all images will have some sort of border/matte. I don't really know why, other than it is intended to represent the "final" image as it would be, if it were framed (or something like that). What about this border for the first image?


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Feb 11, 2018 14:29 as a reply to  @ Hannah'sDad's post |  #7

Personally I think the very first border is the least distracting because it has no bright shiny colours in it. My choice would be a 10 pixel dark grey line all around the image followed by a 150-250 pixel wide(according to taste) 18% grey. But that's just me.




  
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Feb 13, 2018 08:10 |  #8

Pekka wrote in post #18561492 (external link)
The photos are great.

I really do not think the first border is good, it looks sort of "cheap", sorry. Second one is ok, but not great.

Why do you have to add border/frame/matte/pas​separtout at all? That is IMHO something that should be done by a professional (by print house, gallery, exhibition owner), not by the photographer.

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Are these any better? They are more in line with the generally accepted matting of PPA. Thoughts?

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Feb 13, 2018 10:43 |  #9

HannahsDad wrote in post #18562671 (external link)
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Are these any better? They are more in line with the generally accepted matting of PPA. Thoughts?

Way too fancy. . Why not just a border of solid black, even thickness all the way around, with no thin line anywhere? . All this use of creativity and options and double matting is just distracting and takes so much away from the image itself.

It is especially awkward to have a mat that is a different width on the sides than it is on the top and bottom.

If I were forced to have a digital frame because of contest rules, this is what I would do:


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