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Feb 17, 2018 11:25 |  #16

Yes, you will need a passport.

$400USD is significantly less than the cost for shipping and Paypal fees which are about $675USD total.

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Feb 17, 2018 11:30 as a reply to  @ Lowside67's post |  #17
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Don't have passport - I'm an illegal alien :lol: and Proud of it!

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Feb 17, 2018 13:41 |  #18

If you are truly from Mars, you need a passport and also could need a visa. But if you are from USA, you simply need a passport...to get into Canada and also to get back into the USA (and you might also need Trump's blessing to come in as well)


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Feb 17, 2018 14:21 |  #19
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Wilt wrote in post #18566075 (external link)
If you are truly from Mars, you need a passport and also could need a visa. But if you are from USA, you simply need a passport...to get into Canada and also to get back into the USA (and you might also need Trump's blessing to come in as well)


I sure didn't used one when I came to USA.




  
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Feb 17, 2018 14:23 |  #20

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I sure didn't used one when I came to USA.

Well, that was apparently before Trump


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Feb 17, 2018 14:33 |  #21
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Wilt wrote in post #18566109 (external link)
Well, that was apparently before Trump


LOL people are still crossing the borders even with trump.




  
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Feb 17, 2018 14:34 |  #22

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Well, that was apparently before Trump

Actually, it’s been since shortly after 9/11 that Americans have needed passports to travel to and from Canada.


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Feb 17, 2018 14:44 |  #23

Ok seriously. thinkharder, you should be talking to Lowside67. In private.

I’m sure you’ll find he wants to sell the lens as much as you want to buy it. He’s also probably as concerned as you are about being scammed. You’re getting a great deal on the lens, he’s taking a big loss on it.

If you don’t want to pay for shipping, and you really can’t travel to Vancouver, see if the seller is willing to come to the US. Don’t ask him to come to Detroit. Offer to go to Seattle, or Bellingham, and see if he’d be willing to drive down to meet you. If he is, offer to buy him lunch/dinner for his efforts. And while you guys are eating, you can talk about all of the great uses for that awesome lens you’re getting.

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Feb 17, 2018 14:44 |  #24

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Actually, it’s been since shortly after 9/11 that Americans have needed passports to travel to and from Canada.

Correct.

Shortly after 9-11 it became much harder to enter Canada, and I stopped visiting that country because they wanted, like, $140 just for a passport and I don't know where the heck my birth certificate is and don't want to go through any process to get a replacement. . It's just not worth it.

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Another thing to remember are the customs fees, which can be very substantial.

If you leave the U.S. without a 600mm f4, and try to return with one, then you will be subject to paying customs on the item. . Perhaps this added expense can be circumvented if the seller enters the U.S. to meet you instead of you entering Canada to meet him. . Not everything is reciprocal, so it is possible that you could dodge the law doing it one way where you couldn't dodge the law if you did it the other way.


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"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
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" If you leave the U.S. without a 600mm f4, and try to return with one, then you will be subject to paying customs on the item"

I didn't know that. How the border agent know that you not the owner of the lens? unless they search your car of suspicion of carrying illegal stuff.




  
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Feb 17, 2018 15:17 |  #26

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" If you leave the U.S. without a 600mm f4, and try to return with one, then you will be subject to paying customs on the item"

I didn't know that. How the border agent know that you not the owner of the lens? unless they search your car of suspicion of carrying illegal stuff.

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When you leave the U.S. with a valuable item, you have to declare it. . Then, when you declare it, they give you paperwork that proves that you had it when you left the country.

When you try to enter the U.S. with a valuable item, they will ask to see that paperwork that they gave you. . If you do not have it, then they believe that you did not take it out of the U.S. when you left, and then it is subject to importation customs.

I am a little surprised that you did not know this already; I thought that it was common knowledge.


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When you leave the U.S. with a valuable item, you have to declare it. . Then, when you declare it, they give you paperwork that proves that you had it when you left the country.

When you try to enter the U.S. with a valuable item, they will ask to see that paperwork that they gave you. . If you do not have it, then they believe that you did not take it out of the U.S. when you left, and then it is subject to importation customs.

I am a little surprised that you did not know this already; I thought that it was common knowledge.

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Passports were needed when going into Canada well before 2011 (for example it took over an hour in line at Immigration flying into Vancouver in 2006 due to multiple flights arriving about the same time), but I do recall back in the 1980s driving daily into Canada across the bridge from Detroit going to Windsor hotel, without any identification but our driver's licenses (which they never asked for). Driving back into the US after sailboat racing in BC was similarly in no need of documentation, back in the late 1970s

Having travelled with thousands of dollars in photogaphic gear, and also having travelled with tens of thousands of dollars of medical capital equipment, I can recall NEVER having to show any documentation that identified goods leaving USA and returning with same goods, over a 30 year period of much international travel-- into or out from any country of the world. I always had documentation for commercial goods, never formally endorsed list of photographic equipment I had in my possession.

Once, going OUTbound from Canada on the way home in USA, with a USD25k piece of medical equipment that had been used for surgery in Toronto General Hosp...and that was only for a bag inspection passing thru Security as the item under X-ray was not identifiable (but as soon as one agent saw what it was in the open, she quickly let me pass because she knew which body orifice the device as intended for.)


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #18566155 (external link)
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When you leave the U.S. with a valuable item, you have to declare it. . Then, when you declare it, they give you paperwork that proves that you had it when you left the country.

When you try to enter the U.S. with a valuable item, they will ask to see that paperwork that they gave you. . If you do not have it, then they believe that you did not take it out of the U.S. when you left, and then it is subject to importation customs.

I am a little surprised that you did not know this already; I thought that it was common knowledge.

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Ok thanx for the tip. Next time I go to Toronto I know what to prepare and expect.:-) I just won't declared anything.




  
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Feb 17, 2018 19:28 |  #29

I guess his true colors come out with the taunting of the mods and continued accusations/name calling/bragging/talk of customs fraud... :( too bad really...


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I guess his true colors come out with the taunting of the mods and continued accusations/name calling/bragging/talk of customs fraud... :( too bad really...

It is too bad. . ThinkHarder had been a member here for over 9 years. . In fact, he and I joined POTN at almost the same time; just one month apart.

I looked up his post history and read a lot of his old posts. . In fact, for years he posted frequently ..... up until May of 2016 .... then after that he suddenly stopped posting and didn't make a single post for a year and a half. . The vast majority of his older posts did not have the confrontational edginess that his recent posts almost all seemed to have.

Then three months ago he suddenly started posting again, and almost all of these recent posts have been very confrontational - in fact, it is almost as if he has been in "attack mode" and gone out of his way to insult other members, retailers, and even POTN itself. . The posts from years ago were not like that at all.

I feel bad for him. . He could have suffered some life tragedy that made him negative and bitter. . I just hope that at some point he is able to see that going through life angry is not going to fix whatever it is that happened to him, and that he is able to work on the anger issues and become pleasant and joyful again.

I will miss him here, because it is these controversial posts and issue-ridden members that I always find so engaging, and I always look forward to seeing what the confrontational person has posted lately. . These wayward people and their posts are often more entertaining than "regular" forum content.


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"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
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